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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Cc: Joseph Salisbury <joseph.salisbury@oracle.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>,  Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,  Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	 Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
	Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>,  Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	 linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] mm: stress-ng --mremap triggers severe lruvec lock contention in populate/unmap paths
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2026 17:35:18 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <982e5964-5ea6-eaf7-a11a-0692f14a6943@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4a4f5b48-8a1d-48f8-8760-0f5d43b5d483@nvidia.com>

On Tue, 7 Apr 2026, John Hubbard wrote:
> On 4/7/26 1:09 PM, Joseph Salisbury wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I would like to ask for feedback on an MM performance issue triggered by 
> > stress-ng's mremap stressor:
> > 
> > stress-ng --mremap 8192 --mremap-bytes 4K --timeout 30 --metrics-brief
> > 
> > This was first investigated as a possible regression from 0ca0c24e3211 
> > ("mm: store zero pages to be swapped out in a bitmap"), but the current 
> > evidence suggests that commit is mostly exposing an older problem for 
> > this workload rather than directly causing it.
> > 
> 
> Can you try this out? (Adding Hugh to Cc.)
> 
> From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2026 15:33:47 -0700
> Subject: [PATCH] mm/gup: skip lru_add_drain() for non-locked populate
> X-NVConfidentiality: public
> Cc: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
> 
> populate_vma_page_range() calls lru_add_drain() unconditionally after
> __get_user_pages(). With high-frequency single-page MAP_POPULATE/munmap
> cycles at high thread counts, this forces a lruvec->lru_lock acquire
> per page, defeating per-CPU folio_batch batching.
> 
> The drain was added by commit ece369c7e104 ("mm/munlock: add
> lru_add_drain() to fix memcg_stat_test") for VM_LOCKED populate, where
> unevictable page stats must be accurate after faulting. Non-locked VMAs
> have no such requirement. Skip the drain for them.
> 
> Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
> Signed-off-by: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>

Thanks for the Cc.  I'm not convinced that we should be making such a
change, just to avoid the stress that an avowed stresstest is showing;
but can let others debate that - and, need it be said, I have no
problem with Joseph trying your patch.

I tend to stand by my comment in that commit, that it's not just for
VM_LOCKED: I believe it's in everyone's interest that a bulk faulting
interface like populate_vma_page_range() or faultin_vma_page_range()
should drain its local pagevecs at the end, to save others sometimes
needing the much more expensive lru_add_drain_all().

But lru_add_drain() and lru_add_drain_all(): there's so much to be
said and agonized over there  They've distressed me for years, and
are a hot topic for us at present.  But I won't be able to contribute
more on that subject, not this week.

Hugh

> ---
>  mm/gup.c | 13 ++++++++++++-
>  1 file changed, 12 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/gup.c b/mm/gup.c
> index 8e7dc2c6ee73..2dd5de1cb5b9 100644
> --- a/mm/gup.c
> +++ b/mm/gup.c
> @@ -1816,6 +1816,7 @@ long populate_vma_page_range(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>  	struct mm_struct *mm = vma->vm_mm;
>  	unsigned long nr_pages = (end - start) / PAGE_SIZE;
>  	int local_locked = 1;
> +	bool need_drain;
>  	int gup_flags;
>  	long ret;
>  
> @@ -1857,9 +1858,19 @@ long populate_vma_page_range(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>  	 * We made sure addr is within a VMA, so the following will
>  	 * not result in a stack expansion that recurses back here.
>  	 */
> +	/*
> +	 * Read VM_LOCKED before __get_user_pages(), which may drop
> +	 * mmap_lock when FOLL_UNLOCKABLE is set, after which the vma
> +	 * must not be accessed. The read is stable: mmap_lock is held
> +	 * for read here, so mlock() (which needs the write lock)
> +	 * cannot change VM_LOCKED concurrently.
> +	 */
> +	need_drain = vma->vm_flags & VM_LOCKED;
> +
>  	ret = __get_user_pages(mm, start, nr_pages, gup_flags,
>  			       NULL, locked ? locked : &local_locked);
> -	lru_add_drain();
> +	if (need_drain)
> +		lru_add_drain();
>  	return ret;
>  }
>  
> 
> base-commit: 3036cd0d3328220a1858b1ab390be8b562774e8a
> -- 
> 2.53.0
> 
> 
> thanks,
> -- 
> John Hubbard


      reply	other threads:[~2026-04-08  0:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-07 20:09 Joseph Salisbury
2026-04-07 21:47 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-04-08  8:09   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-08 14:27     ` [External] : " Joseph Salisbury
2026-04-07 22:44 ` John Hubbard
2026-04-08  0:35   ` Hugh Dickins [this message]

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