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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Kiryl Shutsemau <kirill@shutemov.name>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	 Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	 Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	 Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	 Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	 "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	 Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	 Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,  Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>,
	 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	 Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	 Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	 "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	 linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 1/2] mm/memory: Do not populate page table entries beyond i_size
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2025 01:20:42 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <96102837-402d-c671-1b29-527f2b5361bf@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251023093251.54146-2-kirill@shutemov.name>

On Thu, 23 Oct 2025, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:

> From: Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>
> 
> Accesses within VMA, but beyond i_size rounded up to PAGE_SIZE are
> supposed to generate SIGBUS.
> 
> Recent changes attempted to fault in full folio where possible. They did
> not respect i_size, which led to populating PTEs beyond i_size and
> breaking SIGBUS semantics.
> 
> Darrick reported generic/749 breakage because of this.
> 
> However, the problem existed before the recent changes. With huge=always
> tmpfs, any write to a file leads to PMD-size allocation. Following the
> fault-in of the folio will install PMD mapping regardless of i_size.
> 
> Fix filemap_map_pages() and finish_fault() to not install:
>   - PTEs beyond i_size;
>   - PMD mappings across i_size;

Sorry for coming in late as usual, and complicating matters.

> 
> Signed-off-by: Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>
> Fixes: 19773df031bc ("mm/fault: try to map the entire file folio in finish_fault()")
> Fixes: 357b92761d94 ("mm/filemap: map entire large folio faultaround")

ACK to restoring the correct POSIX behaviour to those filesystems
which are being given large folios beyond EOF transparently,
without any huge= mount option to permit it.

> Fixes: 800d8c63b2e9 ("shmem: add huge pages support")

But NAK to regressing the intentional behaviour of huge=always
on shmem/tmpfs: the page size, whenever possible, is PMD-sized.  In
6.18-rc huge=always is currently (thanks to Baolin) behaving correctly
again, as it had done for nine years: I insist we do not re-break it.

Andrew, please drop this version (and no need to worry about backports).

I'm guessing that yet another ugly shmem_file() or shmem_mapping()
exception should be good enough - I doubt you need to consider the
huge= option, just go by whether there is a huge folio already there -
though that would have an implication for the following patch.

(But what do I mean by "huge folio" above?  Do I mean large or do
I mean pmd_mappable?  It's the huge=always pmd_mappable folios I
care not to break, the mTHPy ones can be argued either way.)

Hugh


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-10-27  8:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-23  9:32 [PATCHv2 0/2] Fix SIGBUS semantics with large folios Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-23  9:32 ` [PATCHv2 1/2] mm/memory: Do not populate page table entries beyond i_size Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-23 20:49   ` Andrew Morton
2025-10-23 20:54     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-23 21:36       ` Andrew Morton
2025-10-24  9:26         ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-26  4:54           ` Andrew Morton
2025-10-24 15:42   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-24 19:32     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-10-27  9:34       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-27  8:20   ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2025-10-27  9:14     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-27  9:22     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-29  8:31       ` Hugh Dickins
2025-10-29 10:11         ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-30  5:59           ` Hugh Dickins
2025-10-30 17:08             ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-23  9:32 ` [PATCHv2 2/2] mm/truncate: Unmap large folio on split failure Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-23 20:56   ` Andrew Morton
2025-10-24  9:05     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-24 15:43   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-27 10:10   ` Hugh Dickins
2025-10-27 10:38     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-27 10:40     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-29  9:12       ` Hugh Dickins
2025-10-29 10:21         ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-29 15:19           ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-10-29 17:10             ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-23 17:47 ` [PATCHv2 0/2] Fix SIGBUS semantics with large folios Darrick J. Wong

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