From: Honggyu Kim <honggyu.kim@sk.com>
To: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
Cc: kernel_team@skhynix.com, Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>,
harry.yoo@oracle.com, ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com,
gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, rakie.kim@sk.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, rafael@kernel.org, lenb@kernel.org,
dan.j.williams@intel.com, Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com,
dave.jiang@intel.com, horen.chuang@linux.dev, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, kernel-team@meta.com, yunjeong.mun@sk.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2 v6] mm/mempolicy: Don't create weight sysfs for memoryless nodes
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 22:03:22 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <95541985-8d40-4ded-a83e-46203c441640@sk.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z8XWqQdPC7245FA2@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F>
Hi Gregory,
On 3/4/2025 1:19 AM, Gregory Price wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 11:32:26AM +0900, Honggyu Kim wrote:
>>
>> But using N_MEMORY doesn't fix this problem and it hides the entire CXL
>> memory nodes in our system because the CXL memory isn't detected at this
>> point of creating node*. Maybe there is some difference when multiple
>> CXL memory is detected as a single node.
>>
>
> Hm, well, the node is "created" during early boot when ACPI tables are
> read and the CFMW are discovered - but they aren't necessarily "online"
> at the time they're created.
>
> There is no true concept of a "Hotplug NUMA Node" - as the node must be
> created at boot time. (tl;dr: N_POSSIBLE will never change).
>
> This patch may have been a bit overzealous of us, I forgot to ask
> whether N_MEMORY is set for nodes created but not onlined at boot. So
> this is a good observation.
I didn't want to make more noise but we found many issues again after
getting a new machine and started using it with multiple CXL memory.
>
> It also doesn't help that this may introduce a subtle race condition.
>
> If a node exists (N_POSSIBLE) but hasn't been onlined (!N_MEMORY) and
> bandwidth information is reported - then we store the bandwidth info
> but don't include the node in the reduction. Then if the node comes
> online later, we don't re-trigger reduction.
>
> Joshua we should just drop this patch for now and work with Honggyu and
> friends separately on this issue. In the meantime we can stick with
> N_POSSIBLE.
>
> There are more problems in this space - namely how to handle a system
> whereby 8 CXL nodes are "possible" but the user only configures 2 (as
> described by Hyonggye here). We will probably need to introduce
> hotplug/node on/offline callbacks to re-configure weights.
>
> ~Gregory
This work won't take a long time so I think we can submit a patch within
a few days.
Thanks,
Honggyu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-04 13:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20250228001631.1102-1-yunjeong.mun@sk.com>
2025-02-26 21:35 ` [PATCH 1/2 v6] mm/mempolicy: Weighted Interleave Auto-tuning Joshua Hahn
2025-02-26 21:35 ` [PATCH 2/2 v6] mm/mempolicy: Don't create weight sysfs for memoryless nodes Joshua Hahn
2025-02-27 2:32 ` Honggyu Kim
2025-02-27 3:20 ` Honggyu Kim
2025-03-03 21:56 ` Joshua Hahn
2025-03-04 12:53 ` Honggyu Kim
2025-03-03 16:19 ` Gregory Price
2025-03-04 13:03 ` Honggyu Kim [this message]
2025-03-04 16:16 ` Gregory Price
2025-03-04 16:29 ` Gregory Price
2025-03-06 12:39 ` Honggyu Kim
2025-03-06 17:32 ` Gregory Price
2025-03-07 11:46 ` Honggyu Kim
2025-03-07 17:51 ` Gregory Price
2025-03-10 12:26 ` Honggyu Kim
2025-03-10 14:22 ` Gregory Price
2025-03-11 2:07 ` Yunjeong Mun
2025-03-11 2:42 ` Gregory Price
2025-03-11 4:02 ` Yunjeong Mun
2025-03-11 4:42 ` Gregory Price
2025-03-11 9:51 ` Yunjeong Mun
2025-03-11 15:52 ` Gregory Price
2025-03-18 8:02 ` Yunjeong Mun
2025-03-18 11:02 ` Honggyu Kim
2025-03-18 15:13 ` Gregory Price
2025-03-19 9:56 ` Yunjeong Mun
2025-03-19 14:54 ` Gregory Price
2025-02-28 0:16 ` [PATCH 1/2 v6] mm/mempolicy: Weighted Interleave Auto-tuning yunjeong.mun
2025-02-28 6:39 ` Yunjeong Mun
2025-02-28 16:24 ` Joshua Hahn
2025-03-04 21:56 ` Joshua Hahn
2025-03-04 22:22 ` Joshua Hahn
2025-03-05 9:49 ` Yunjeong Mun
2025-03-05 16:28 ` Joshua Hahn
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