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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] mm/ksm: update stale comment in write_protect_page()
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 21:36:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <94c3217d-df73-2b6b-21f0-95baf117c584@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHbLzkpFqSBTv3HVye4UCKj93NPW8VRqCGZO1p5hk_wfNA_GtQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 31.08.22 21:34, Yang Shi wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 12:15 PM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 31.08.22 21:08, Yang Shi wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 11:29 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 31.08.22 19:55, Yang Shi wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 1:30 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The comment is stale, because a TLB flush is no longer sufficient and
>>>>>> required to synchronize against concurrent GUP-fast. This used to be true
>>>>>> in the past, whereby a TLB flush would have implied an IPI on architectures
>>>>>> that support GUP-fast, resulting in GUP-fast that disables local interrupts
>>>>>> from completing before completing the flush.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm... it seems there might be problem for THP collapse IIUC. THP
>>>>> collapse clears and flushes pmd before doing anything on pte and
>>>>> relies on interrupt disable of fast GUP to serialize against fast GUP.
>>>>> But if TLB flush is no longer sufficient, then we may run into the
>>>>> below race IIUC:
>>>>>
>>>>>          CPU A                                                CPU B
>>>>> THP collapse                                             fast GUP
>>>>>
>>>>> gup_pmd_range() <-- see valid pmd
>>>>>
>>>>> gup_pte_range() <-- work on pte
>>>>> clear pmd and flush TLB
>>>>> __collapse_huge_page_isolate()
>>>>>     isolate page <-- before GUP bump refcount
>>>>>
>>>>>    pin the page
>>>>> __collapse_huge_page_copy()
>>>>>     copy data to huge page
>>>>>     clear pte (don't flush TLB)
>>>>> Install huge pmd for huge page
>>>>>
>>>>> return the obsolete page
>>>>
>>>> Hm, the is_refcount_suitable() check runs while the PTE hasn't been
>>>> cleared yet. And we don't check if the PMD changed once we're in
>>>> gup_pte_range().
>>>
>>> Yes
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The comment most certainly should be stale as well -- unless there is
>>>> some kind of an implicit IPI broadcast being done.
>>>>
>>>> 2667f50e8b81 mentions: "The RCU page table free logic coupled with an
>>>> IPI broadcast on THP split (which is a rare event), allows one to
>>>> protect a page table walker by merely disabling the interrupts during
>>>> the walk."
>>>>
>>>> I'm not able to quickly locate that IPI broadcast -- maybe there is one
>>>> being done here (in collapse) as well?
>>>
>>> The TLB flush may call IPI. I'm supposed it is arch dependent, right?
>>> Some do use IPI, some may not.
>>
>> Right, and the whole idea of the RCU GUP-fast was to support
>> architectures that don't do it. x86-64 does it. IIRC, powerpc doesn't do
>> it -- but maybe it does so for PMDs?
> 
> It looks powerpc does issue IPI for pmd flush. But arm64 doesn't IIRC.
> 
> So maybe we should implement pmdp_collapse_flush() for those arches to
> issue IPI.

... or find another way to detect and handle this in GUP-fast?

Not sure if, for handling PMDs, it could be sufficient to propagate the
pmdp pointer + value and double check that the values didn't change.

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-31 19:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-31  8:30 David Hildenbrand
2022-08-31 17:55 ` Yang Shi
2022-08-31 18:29   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-31 19:08     ` Yang Shi
2022-08-31 19:15       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-31 19:33         ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-31 19:34         ` Yang Shi
2022-08-31 19:36           ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2022-08-31 19:43             ` Yang Shi
2022-08-31 20:59               ` John Hubbard
2022-08-31 21:42                 ` Yang Shi
2022-08-31 22:18               ` Yang Shi
2022-09-01  6:58                 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-01 17:40                   ` Yang Shi
2022-08-31 18:52   ` Peter Xu
2022-08-31 20:38     ` Yang Shi
2022-08-31 21:09       ` Peter Xu
2022-08-31 21:44         ` Yang Shi

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