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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>
Cc: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com>,
	Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Zach O'Keefe <zokeefe@google.com>,
	Manish Mishra <manish.mishra@nutanix.com>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <naoya.horiguchi@nec.com>,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>, Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	Frank van der Linden <fvdl@google.com>,
	Jiaqi Yan <jiaqiyan@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/46] hugetlb: introduce HugeTLB high-granularity mapping
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 10:07:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <94a10407-ebcb-7090-ef92-2bbc9416d6fa@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHS8izNPr+TfxLL_dBitKAgd11rPhjHx+10Nn96TD3HXzUSevQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 22.02.23 21:57, Mina Almasry wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 7:49 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 21.02.23 22:46, Mike Kravetz wrote:
>>> On 02/18/23 00:27, James Houghton wrote:
>>>> This series introduces the concept of HugeTLB high-granularity mapping
>>>> (HGM). This series teaches HugeTLB how to map HugeTLB pages at
>>>> high-granularity, similar to how THPs can be PTE-mapped.
>>>>
>>>> Support for HGM in this series is for MAP_SHARED VMAs on x86_64 only. Other
>>>> architectures and (some) support for MAP_PRIVATE will come later.
>>>>
>>>> This series is based on latest mm-unstable (ccd6a73daba9).
>>>>
>>>> Notable changes with this series
>>>> ================================
>>>>
>>>>    - hugetlb_add_file_rmap / hugetlb_remove_rmap are added to handle
>>>>      mapcounting for non-anon hugetlb.
>>>>    - The mapcounting scheme uses subpages' mapcounts for high-granularity
>>>>      mappings, but it does not use subpages_mapcount(). This scheme
>>>>      prevents the HugeTLB VMEMMAP optimization from being used, so it
>>>>      will be improved in a later series.
>>>>    - page_add_file_rmap and page_remove_rmap are updated so they can be
>>>>      used by hugetlb_add_file_rmap / hugetlb_remove_rmap.
>>>>    - MADV_SPLIT has been added to enable the userspace API changes that
>>>>      HGM allows for: high-granularity UFFDIO_CONTINUE (and maybe other
>>>>      changes in the future). MADV_SPLIT does NOT force all the mappings to
>>>>      be PAGE_SIZE.
>>>>    - MADV_COLLAPSE is expanded to include HugeTLB mappings.
>>>>
>>>> Old versions:
>>>> v1: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20230105101844.1893104-1-jthoughton@google.com/
>>>> RFC v2: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20221021163703.3218176-1-jthoughton@google.com/
>>>> RFC v1: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20220624173656.2033256-1-jthoughton@google.com/
>>>>
>>>> Changelog:
>>>> v1 -> v2 (thanks Peter for all your suggestions!):
>>>> - Changed mapcount to be more THP-like, and make HGM incompatible with
>>>>     HVO.
>>>> - HGM is now disabled by default to leave HVO enabled by default.
>>>
>>> I understand the reasoning behind the move to THP-like mapcounting, and the
>>> incompatibility with HVO.  However, I just got to patch 5 and realized either
>>> HGM or HVO will need to be chosen at kernel build time.  That may not be an
>>> issue for cloud providers or others building their own kernels for internal
>>> use.  However, distro kernels will need to pick one option or the other.
>>> Right now, my Fedora desktop has HVO enabled so it would likely not have
>>> HGM enabled.  That is not a big deal for a desktop.
>>>
>>> Just curious, do we have distro kernel users that want to use HGM?
>>
>> Most certainly I would say :)
>>
> 
> Is it a blocker to merge in an initial implementation though? Do
> distro kernel users have a pressing need for HVO + HGM used in tandem?

At least RHEL9 seems to include HVO. It's not enabled as default 
(CONFIG_HUGETLB_PAGE_OPTIMIZE_VMEMMAP_DEFAULT_ON not set), but compiled 
in so it can be runtime-enabled. Disabling HVO is not an option IMHO.

Maybe, one could make both features compile-time compatible but 
runtime-mutually exclusive. Or work on a way to make them fully 
compatible right from the start.

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-23  9:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-18  0:27 James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 01/46] hugetlb: don't set PageUptodate for UFFDIO_CONTINUE James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:41   ` Mina Almasry
2023-02-21 15:59     ` James Houghton
2023-02-21 19:33       ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-21 19:58         ` James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 02/46] hugetlb: remove mk_huge_pte; it is unused James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 03/46] hugetlb: remove redundant pte_mkhuge in migration path James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 04/46] hugetlb: only adjust address ranges when VMAs want PMD sharing James Houghton
2023-02-18  1:10   ` Mina Almasry
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 05/46] rmap: hugetlb: switch from page_dup_file_rmap to page_add_file_rmap James Houghton
2023-03-02  1:06   ` Jiaqi Yan
2023-03-02 15:44     ` James Houghton
2023-03-02 16:43       ` James Houghton
2023-03-02 19:22         ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 06/46] hugetlb: add CONFIG_HUGETLB_HIGH_GRANULARITY_MAPPING James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 07/46] mm: add VM_HUGETLB_HGM VMA flag James Houghton
2023-02-24 22:35   ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 08/46] hugetlb: add HugeTLB HGM enablement helpers James Houghton
2023-02-18  1:40   ` Mina Almasry
2023-02-21 16:16     ` James Houghton
2023-02-24 23:08   ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 09/46] mm: add MADV_SPLIT to enable HugeTLB HGM James Houghton
2023-02-18  1:58   ` Mina Almasry
2023-02-21 16:33     ` James Houghton
2023-02-24 23:25   ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-27 15:14     ` James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 10/46] hugetlb: make huge_pte_lockptr take an explicit shift argument James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 11/46] hugetlb: add hugetlb_pte to track HugeTLB page table entries James Houghton
2023-02-18  5:24   ` Mina Almasry
2023-02-21 16:36     ` James Houghton
2023-02-25  0:09   ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 12/46] hugetlb: add hugetlb_alloc_pmd and hugetlb_alloc_pte James Houghton
2023-02-18 17:46   ` kernel test robot
2023-02-27 19:16   ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-27 19:31     ` James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 13/46] hugetlb: add hugetlb_hgm_walk and hugetlb_walk_step James Houghton
2023-02-18  7:43   ` kernel test robot
2023-02-18 18:07   ` kernel test robot
2023-02-21 17:09     ` James Houghton
2023-02-28 22:14   ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-28 23:03     ` James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 14/46] hugetlb: split PTE markers when doing HGM walks James Houghton
2023-02-18 19:49   ` kernel test robot
2023-02-28 22:48   ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 15/46] hugetlb: add make_huge_pte_with_shift James Houghton
2023-02-22 21:14   ` Mina Almasry
2023-02-22 22:53     ` James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 16/46] hugetlb: make default arch_make_huge_pte understand small mappings James Houghton
2023-02-22 21:17   ` Mina Almasry
2023-02-22 22:52     ` James Houghton
2023-02-28 23:02   ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 17/46] hugetlbfs: do a full walk to check if vma maps a page James Houghton
2023-02-22 15:46   ` James Houghton
2023-02-28 23:52     ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 18/46] hugetlb: add HGM support to __unmap_hugepage_range James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 19/46] hugetlb: add HGM support to hugetlb_change_protection James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 20/46] hugetlb: add HGM support to follow_hugetlb_page James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 21/46] hugetlb: add HGM support to hugetlb_follow_page_mask James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 22/46] hugetlb: add HGM support to copy_hugetlb_page_range James Houghton
2023-02-24 17:39   ` James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 23/46] hugetlb: add HGM support to move_hugetlb_page_tables James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 24/46] hugetlb: add HGM support to hugetlb_fault and hugetlb_no_page James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 25/46] hugetlb: use struct hugetlb_pte for walk_hugetlb_range James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 26/46] mm: rmap: provide pte_order in page_vma_mapped_walk James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 27/46] mm: rmap: update try_to_{migrate,unmap} to handle mapcount for HGM James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 28/46] mm: rmap: in try_to_{migrate,unmap}, check head page for hugetlb page flags James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 29/46] hugetlb: update page_vma_mapped to do high-granularity walks James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 30/46] hugetlb: add high-granularity migration support James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 31/46] hugetlb: sort hstates in hugetlb_init_hstates James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 32/46] hugetlb: add for_each_hgm_shift James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 33/46] hugetlb: userfaultfd: add support for high-granularity UFFDIO_CONTINUE James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 34/46] hugetlb: add MADV_COLLAPSE for hugetlb James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 35/46] hugetlb: add check to prevent refcount overflow via HGM James Houghton
2023-02-24 17:42   ` James Houghton
2023-02-24 18:05     ` James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 36/46] hugetlb: remove huge_pte_lock and huge_pte_lockptr James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 37/46] hugetlb: replace make_huge_pte with make_huge_pte_with_shift James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 38/46] mm: smaps: add stats for HugeTLB mapping size James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 39/46] hugetlb: x86: enable high-granularity mapping for x86_64 James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 40/46] docs: hugetlb: update hugetlb and userfaultfd admin-guides with HGM info James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 41/46] docs: proc: include information about HugeTLB HGM James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 42/46] selftests/mm: add HugeTLB HGM to userfaultfd selftest James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 43/46] KVM: selftests: add HugeTLB HGM to KVM demand paging selftest James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 44/46] selftests/mm: add anon and shared hugetlb to migration test James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 45/46] selftests/mm: add hugetlb HGM test to migration selftest James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 46/46] selftests/mm: add HGM UFFDIO_CONTINUE and hwpoison tests James Houghton
2023-02-24 17:37   ` James Houghton
2023-02-21 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 00/46] hugetlb: introduce HugeTLB high-granularity mapping Mike Kravetz
2023-02-22 15:48   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-22 20:57     ` Mina Almasry
2023-02-23  9:07       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2023-02-23 15:53         ` James Houghton
2023-02-23 16:17           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-23 18:33             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2023-02-23 18:25           ` Mike Kravetz

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