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From: Ge Yang <yangge1116@126.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org,
	21cnbao@gmail.com, david@redhat.com,
	baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, vbabka@suse.cz,
	liuzixing@hygon.cn
Subject: Re: [PATCH V7] mm, compaction: don't use ALLOC_CMA for unmovable allocations
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 10:15:06 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <93cf1aee-70df-426f-a3c0-1db8068bd59a@126.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241217155551.GA37530@cmpxchg.org>



在 2024/12/17 23:55, Johannes Weiner 写道:
> Hello Yangge,
> 
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 07:46:44PM +0800, yangge1116@126.com wrote:
>> From: yangge <yangge1116@126.com>
>>
>> Since commit 984fdba6a32e ("mm, compaction: use proper alloc_flags
>> in __compaction_suitable()") allow compaction to proceed when free
>> pages required for compaction reside in the CMA pageblocks, it's
>> possible that __compaction_suitable() always returns true, and in
>> some cases, it's not acceptable.
>>
>> There are 4 NUMA nodes on my machine, and each NUMA node has 32GB
>> of memory. I have configured 16GB of CMA memory on each NUMA node,
>> and starting a 32GB virtual machine with device passthrough is
>> extremely slow, taking almost an hour.
>>
>> During the start-up of the virtual machine, it will call
>> pin_user_pages_remote(..., FOLL_LONGTERM, ...) to allocate memory.
>> Long term GUP cannot allocate memory from CMA area, so a maximum
>> of 16 GB of no-CMA memory on a NUMA node can be used as virtual
>> machine memory. Since there is 16G of free CMA memory on the NUMA
>> node, watermark for order-0 always be met for compaction, so
>> __compaction_suitable() always returns true, even if the node is
>> unable to allocate non-CMA memory for the virtual machine.
>>
>> For costly allocations, because __compaction_suitable() always
>> returns true, __alloc_pages_slowpath() can't exit at the appropriate
>> place, resulting in excessively long virtual machine startup times.
>> Call trace:
>> __alloc_pages_slowpath
>>      if (compact_result == COMPACT_SKIPPED ||
>>          compact_result == COMPACT_DEFERRED)
>>          goto nopage; // should exit __alloc_pages_slowpath() from here
>>
>> Other unmovable alloctions, like dma_buf, which can be large in a
>> Linux system, are also unable to allocate memory from CMA, and these
>> allocations suffer from the same problems described above. In order
>> to quickly fall back to remote node, we should remove ALLOC_CMA both
>> in __compaction_suitable() and __isolate_free_page() for unmovable
>> alloctions. After this fix, starting a 32GB virtual machine with
>> device passthrough takes only a few seconds.
> 
> The symptom is obviously bad, but I don't understand this fix.
> 
> The reason we do ALLOC_CMA is that, even for unmovable allocations,
> you can create space in non-CMA space by moving migratable pages over
> to CMA space. This is not a property we want to lose. But I also don't
> see how it would interfere with your scenario.

The __alloc_pages_slowpath() function was originally intended to exit at 
place 1, but due to __compaction_suitable() always returning true, it 
results in __alloc_pages_slowpath() exiting at place 2 instead. This 
ultimately leads to a significantly longer execution time for 
__alloc_pages_slowpath().

Call trace:
  __alloc_pages_slowpath
       if (compact_result == COMPACT_SKIPPED ||
          compact_result == COMPACT_DEFERRED)
           goto nopage; // place 1
       __alloc_pages_direct_reclaim() // Reclaim is very expensive
       __alloc_pages_direct_compact()
       if (gfp_mask & __GFP_NORETRY)
           goto nopage; // place 2

Every time memory allocation goes through the above slower process, it 
ultimately leads to significantly longer virtual machine startup times.

> 
> There is the compaction_suitable() check in should_compact_retry(),
> but that only applies when COMPACT_SKIPPED. IOW, it should only happen
> when compaction_suitable() just now returned false. IOW, a race
> condition. Which is why it's also not subject to limited retries.
> 
> What's the exact condition that traps the allocator inside the loop?
The should_compact_retry() function was not executed, and the slow here 
was mainly due to the execution of __alloc_pages_direct_reclaim().



  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-18  2:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-17 11:46 yangge1116
2024-12-17 15:55 ` Johannes Weiner
2024-12-18  2:15   ` Ge Yang [this message]
2024-12-18  3:29     ` Johannes Weiner
2024-12-18  3:56       ` Ge Yang
2024-12-18  4:00       ` Ge Yang
2024-12-18  7:57   ` Baolin Wang

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