From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] mm/ksm: update stale comment in write_protect_page()
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 21:33:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9378bae6-e84f-113f-b41c-60a09c095243@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ab41f458-eb0f-5edb-ccab-643bf00d5110@redhat.com>
On 31.08.22 21:15, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 31.08.22 21:08, Yang Shi wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 11:29 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 31.08.22 19:55, Yang Shi wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 1:30 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The comment is stale, because a TLB flush is no longer sufficient and
>>>>> required to synchronize against concurrent GUP-fast. This used to be true
>>>>> in the past, whereby a TLB flush would have implied an IPI on architectures
>>>>> that support GUP-fast, resulting in GUP-fast that disables local interrupts
>>>>> from completing before completing the flush.
>>>>
>>>> Hmm... it seems there might be problem for THP collapse IIUC. THP
>>>> collapse clears and flushes pmd before doing anything on pte and
>>>> relies on interrupt disable of fast GUP to serialize against fast GUP.
>>>> But if TLB flush is no longer sufficient, then we may run into the
>>>> below race IIUC:
>>>>
>>>> CPU A CPU B
>>>> THP collapse fast GUP
>>>>
>>>> gup_pmd_range() <-- see valid pmd
>>>>
>>>> gup_pte_range() <-- work on pte
>>>> clear pmd and flush TLB
>>>> __collapse_huge_page_isolate()
>>>> isolate page <-- before GUP bump refcount
>>>>
>>>> pin the page
>>>> __collapse_huge_page_copy()
>>>> copy data to huge page
>>>> clear pte (don't flush TLB)
>>>> Install huge pmd for huge page
>>>>
>>>> return the obsolete page
>>>
>>> Hm, the is_refcount_suitable() check runs while the PTE hasn't been
>>> cleared yet. And we don't check if the PMD changed once we're in
>>> gup_pte_range().
>>
>> Yes
>>
>>>
>>> The comment most certainly should be stale as well -- unless there is
>>> some kind of an implicit IPI broadcast being done.
>>>
>>> 2667f50e8b81 mentions: "The RCU page table free logic coupled with an
>>> IPI broadcast on THP split (which is a rare event), allows one to
>>> protect a page table walker by merely disabling the interrupts during
>>> the walk."
>>>
>>> I'm not able to quickly locate that IPI broadcast -- maybe there is one
>>> being done here (in collapse) as well?
>>
>> The TLB flush may call IPI. I'm supposed it is arch dependent, right?
>> Some do use IPI, some may not.
>
> Right, and the whole idea of the RCU GUP-fast was to support
> architectures that don't do it. x86-64 does it. IIRC, powerpc doesn't do
> it -- but maybe it does so for PMDs?
Looking into the details (and the outdated comment for gup_pte_range()
we should fixup), THP splitting used in the past pmdp_splitting_flush()
for triggering an IPI broadcast.
However, that has been removed in 4b471e8898c3 ("mm, thp: remove
infrastructure for handling splitting PMDs") due to refcount handling
changes that no longer require it.
Consequently, I don't think we can expect an IPI broadcast to sync with
GUP-fast at that point ...
--
Thanks,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-31 19:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-31 8:30 David Hildenbrand
2022-08-31 17:55 ` Yang Shi
2022-08-31 18:29 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-31 19:08 ` Yang Shi
2022-08-31 19:15 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-31 19:33 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2022-08-31 19:34 ` Yang Shi
2022-08-31 19:36 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-31 19:43 ` Yang Shi
2022-08-31 20:59 ` John Hubbard
2022-08-31 21:42 ` Yang Shi
2022-08-31 22:18 ` Yang Shi
2022-09-01 6:58 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-01 17:40 ` Yang Shi
2022-08-31 18:52 ` Peter Xu
2022-08-31 20:38 ` Yang Shi
2022-08-31 21:09 ` Peter Xu
2022-08-31 21:44 ` Yang Shi
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