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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>, Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>,
	Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	Jakub Matena <matenajakub@gmail.com>,
	Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>,
	Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] mm/mremap: introduce more mergeable mremap via MREMAP_RELOCATE_ANON
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2025 13:47:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <93528cdf-93d1-4931-b668-51c9fb29d73c@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f86c4211-fa9c-43a4-b60a-4fc563fd4d61@redhat.com>

On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 01:58:59PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 17.06.25 12:57, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 10:45:53AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > mremap() is already an expensive operation ... so I think we need a pretty
> > > convincing case to make this configurable by the user at all for each
> > > individual mremap() invocation.
> >
> > My measurements suggest, unless you hit a very unfortunate case of -huge
> > faulted in range all mapped PTE- that the work involved is not all that
> > much more substantial in terms of order of magnitude than a normal mremap()
> > operation.
>
> Which means we could at least try without such a flag.
>
> Regarding MREMAP_MUST_RELOCATE_ANON, I absolutely hate it.

Ack this isn't life or death we can drop it.

>
> I'll reply to your comment to my other mail once I get to it.

Thanks!

I know this is a gnarly series so appreciate you (and Harry of course!) looking.

>
> Users that really care (testing) could figure out if merging worked by
> looking at /proc/. Other users ... no idea what they are even supposed to do
> in that case. Not mremap()? But what is the use case ...
>
> If the "not merged" case would be relevant, a workaround would be ...
> mremapping it simply back?

True true.

>
> So if we can, let's just try without any of these flags first.

Ack.

>
> MREMAP_MUST_RELOCATE_ANON could always be added later on top, once the use
> case for it is clear. Removing it from this series would not make this
> series any less valuable I think.

Sure.

>
> (and of course, doing it without any flags will make this series much more
> valuable :P )

Yeah, I'd prefer this overall if possible...

>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> David / dhildenb
>
>

Thinking of undo, here's an idea:

1. increment refcount on folio
2. isolate from LRU
3. Add to linked list

Do this for all folios.

Then if we encounter a problem we can simply walk the list + fixup, drop
refcount, re-add to LRU.

It's ugly, but it guarantees we can undo what we set?


  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-17 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-09 13:26 Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-09 13:26 ` [PATCH 01/11] " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-16 20:58   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-17  6:37     ` Harry Yoo
2025-06-17  9:52       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-17 10:01         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-17 10:07     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-17 12:07       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-17 11:15   ` Harry Yoo
2025-06-17 11:24     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-17 11:49       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-17 20:09   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-09 13:26 ` [PATCH 02/11] mm/mremap: add MREMAP_MUST_RELOCATE_ANON Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-09 13:26 ` [PATCH 03/11] mm/mremap: add MREMAP[_MUST]_RELOCATE_ANON support for large folios Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-09 13:26 ` [PATCH 04/11] tools UAPI: Update copy of linux/mman.h from the kernel sources Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-09 13:26 ` [PATCH 05/11] tools/testing/selftests: add sys_mremap() helper to vm_util.h Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-09 13:26 ` [PATCH 06/11] tools/testing/selftests: add mremap() cases that merge normally Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-09 13:26 ` [PATCH 07/11] tools/testing/selftests: add MREMAP_RELOCATE_ANON merge test cases Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-09 13:26 ` [PATCH 08/11] tools/testing/selftests: expand mremap() tests for MREMAP_RELOCATE_ANON Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-09 13:26 ` [PATCH 09/11] tools/testing/selftests: have CoW self test use MREMAP_RELOCATE_ANON Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-09 13:26 ` [PATCH 10/11] tools/testing/selftests: test relocate anon in split huge page test Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-09 13:26 ` [PATCH 11/11] tools/testing/selftests: add MREMAP_RELOCATE_ANON fork tests Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-16 20:24 ` [PATCH 00/11] mm/mremap: introduce more mergeable mremap via MREMAP_RELOCATE_ANON David Hildenbrand
2025-06-16 20:41   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-17  8:34     ` Pedro Falcato
2025-06-17  8:45       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-17 10:57         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-17 11:58           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-17 12:47             ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2025-06-20 18:59           ` Pedro Falcato
2025-06-20 19:28             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-24  9:38               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-24 10:19                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-24 12:05                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-17 10:20       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-17 10:50   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-17  5:42 ` Lai, Yi
2025-06-17  6:45   ` Harry Yoo
2025-06-17  9:33     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-25 15:44 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-25 15:58   ` Andrew Morton

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