From: Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>, <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
<baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>, <david@redhat.com>,
<hughd@google.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>, <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: shmem: convert to use folio_zero_range()
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 14:37:21 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9318769a-0d51-4c03-a808-fc3a3f09d492@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ttcx0x4j.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com>
On 2024/10/28 10:39, Huang, Ying wrote:
> Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> writes:
>
>> On 2024/10/25 20:21, Huang, Ying wrote:
>>> Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 2024/10/25 15:47, Huang, Ying wrote:
>>>>> Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024/10/25 10:59, Huang, Ying wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi, Kefeng,
>>>>>>> Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +CC Huang Ying,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2024/10/23 6:56, Barry Song wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 4:10 AM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024/10/17 23:09, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 10:25:04PM +0800, Kefeng Wang wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Directly use folio_zero_range() to cleanup code.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you sure there's no performance regression introduced by this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage() is often optimised in ways that we can't optimise for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a plain memset(). On the other hand, if the folio is large, maybe a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modern CPU will be able to do better than clear-one-page-at-a-time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right, I missing this, clear_page might be better than memset, I change
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this one when look at the shmem_writepage(), which already convert to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use folio_zero_range() from clear_highpage(), also I grep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_zero_range(), there are some other to use folio_zero_range().
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/bcachefs/fs-io-buffered.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/bcachefs/fs-io-buffered.c: folio_zero_range(f,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0, folio_size(f));
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/bcachefs/fs-io-buffered.c: folio_zero_range(f,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0, folio_size(f));
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/libfs.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0, folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/ntfs3/frecord.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mm/page_io.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0, folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mm/shmem.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0, folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOW, what performance testing have you done with this patch?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No performance test before, but I write a testcase,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) allocate N large folios (folio_alloc(PMD_ORDER))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) then calculate the diff(us) when clear all N folios
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage/folio_zero_range/folio_zero_user
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) release N folios
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the result(run 5 times) shown below on my machine,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> N=1,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage folio_zero_range folio_zero_user
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 69 74 177
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 57 62 168
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 54 58 234
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 54 58 157
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 56 62 148
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avg 58 62.8 176.8
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> N=100
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage folio_zero_range folio_zero_user
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 11015 11309 32833
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 10385 11110 49751
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 10369 11056 33095
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 10332 11017 33106
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 10483 11000 49032
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avg 10516.8 11098.4 39563.4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> N=512
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage folio_zero_range folio_zero_user
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 55560 60055 156876
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 55485 60024 157132
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 55474 60129 156658
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 55555 59867 157259
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 55528 59932 157108
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avg 55520.4 60001.4 157006.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_zero_user with many cond_resched(), so time fluctuates a lot,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage is better folio_zero_range as you said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe add a new helper to convert all folio_zero_range(folio, 0,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_size(folio))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use clear_highpage + flush_dcache_folio?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this also improves performance for other existing callers of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_zero_range(), then that's a positive outcome.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi Kefeng,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what's your point? providing a helper like clear_highfolio() or similar?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, from above test, using clear_highpage/flush_dcache_folio is better
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than using folio_zero_range() for folio zero(especially for large
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folio), so I'd like to add a new helper, maybe name it folio_zero()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since it zero the whole folio.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we already have a helper like folio_zero_user()?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is not good enough?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since it is with many cond_resched(), the performance is worst...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not exactly? It should have zero cost for a preemptible kernel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For a non-preemptible kernel, it helps avoid clearing the folio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from occupying the CPU and starving other processes, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- a/mm/shmem.c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +++ b/mm/shmem.c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @@ -2393,10 +2393,7 @@ static int shmem_get_folio_gfp(struct inode
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *inode, pgoff_t index,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * it now, lest undo on failure cancel our earlier guarantee.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> */
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if (sgp != SGP_WRITE && !folio_test_uptodate(folio)) {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - long i, n = folio_nr_pages(folio);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - for (i = 0; i < n; i++)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - clear_highpage(folio_page(folio, i));
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> + folio_zero_user(folio, vmf->address);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flush_dcache_folio(folio);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_mark_uptodate(folio);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we perform better or worse with the following?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is for SGP_FALLOC, vmf = NULL, we could use folio_zero_user(folio,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0), I think the performance is worse, will retest once I can access
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps, since the current code uses clear_hugepage(). Does using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> index << PAGE_SHIFT as the addr_hint offer any benefit?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> when use folio_zero_user(), the performance is vary bad with above
>>>>>>>>>>>> fallocate test(mount huge=always),
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_zero_range clear_highpage folio_zero_user
>>>>>>>>>>>> real 0m1.214s 0m1.111s 0m3.159s
>>>>>>>>>>>> user 0m0.000s 0m0.000s 0m0.000s
>>>>>>>>>>>> sys 0m1.210s 0m1.109s 0m3.152s
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I tried with addr_hint = 0/index << PAGE_SHIFT, no obvious different.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting. Does your kernel have preemption disabled or
>>>>>>>>>>> preemption_debug enabled?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ARM64 server, CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE=y
>>>>>>>>> this explains why the performance is much worse.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If not, it makes me wonder whether folio_zero_user() in
>>>>>>>>>>> alloc_anon_folio() is actually improving performance as expected,
>>>>>>>>>>> compared to the simpler folio_zero() you plan to implement. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, maybe, the folio_zero_user(was clear_huge_page) is from
>>>>>>>>>> 47ad8475c000 ("thp: clear_copy_huge_page"), so original clear_huge_page
>>>>>>>>>> is used in HugeTLB, clear PUD size maybe spend many time, but for PMD or
>>>>>>>>>> other size of large folio, cond_resched is not necessary since we
>>>>>>>>>> already have some folio_zero_range() to clear large folio, and no issue
>>>>>>>>>> was reported.
>>>>>>>>> probably worth an optimization. calling cond_resched() for each page
>>>>>>>>> seems too aggressive and useless.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After some test, I think the cond_resched() is not the root cause,
>>>>>>>> no performance gained with batched cond_resched(), even I kill
>>>>>>>> cond_resched() from process_huge_page, no improvement.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But when I unconditionally use clear_gigantic_page() in
>>>>>>>> folio_zero_user(patched), there is big improvement with above
>>>>>>>> fallocate on tmpfs(mount huge=always), also I test some other testcase,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) case-anon-w-seq-mt: (2M PMD THP)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> base:
>>>>>>>> real 0m2.490s 0m2.254s 0m2.272s
>>>>>>>> user 1m59.980s 2m23.431s 2m18.739s
>>>>>>>> sys 1m3.675s 1m15.462s 1m15.030s
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> patched:
>>>>>>>> real 0m2.234s 0m2.225s 0m2.159s
>>>>>>>> user 2m56.105s 2m57.117s 3m0.489s
>>>>>>>> sys 0m17.064s 0m17.564s 0m16.150s
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Patched kernel win on sys and bad in user, but real is almost same,
>>>>>>>> maybe a little better than base.
>>>>>>> We can find user time difference. That means the original cache hot
>>>>>>> behavior still applies on your system.
>>>>>>> However, it appears that the performance to clear page from end to
>>>>>>> begin
>>>>>>> is really bad on your system.
>>>>>>> So, I suggest to revise the current implementation to use sequential
>>>>>>> clearing as much as possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I test case-anon-cow-seq-hugetlb for copy_user_large_folio()
>>>>>>
>>>>>> base:
>>>>>> real 0m6.259s 0m6.197s 0m6.316s
>>>>>> user 1m31.176s 1m27.195s 1m29.594s
>>>>>> sys 7m44.199s 7m51.490s 8m21.149s
>>>>>>
>>>>>> patched(use copy_user_gigantic_page for 2M hugetlb too)
>>>>>> real 0m3.182s 0m3.002s 0m2.963s
>>>>>> user 1m19.456s 1m3.107s 1m6.447s
>>>>>> sys 2m59.222s 3m10.899s 3m1.027s
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and sequential copy is better than the current implementation,
>>>>>> so I will use sequential clear and copy.
>>>>> Sorry, it appears that you misunderstanding my suggestion. I
>>>>> suggest to
>>>>> revise process_huge_page() to use more sequential memory clearing and
>>>>> copying to improve its performance on your platform.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Huang, Ying
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) case-anon-w-seq-hugetlb:(2M PMD HugeTLB)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> base:
>>>>>>>> real 0m5.175s 0m5.117s 0m4.856s
>>>>>>>> user 5m15.943s 5m7.567s 4m29.273s
>>>>>>>> sys 2m38.503s 2m21.949s 2m21.252s
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> patched:
>>>>>>>> real 0m4.966s 0m4.841s 0m4.561s
>>>>>>>> user 6m30.123s 6m9.516s 5m49.733s
>>>>>>>> sys 0m58.503s 0m47.847s 0m46.785s
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This case is similar to the case1.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3) fallocate hugetlb 20G (2M PMD HugeTLB)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> base:
>>>>>>>> real 0m3.016s 0m3.019s 0m3.018s
>>>>>>>> user 0m0.000s 0m0.000s 0m0.000s
>>>>>>>> sys 0m3.009s 0m3.012s 0m3.010s
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> patched:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> real 0m1.136s 0m1.136s 0m1.136s
>>>>>>>> user 0m0.000s 0m0.000s 0m0.004s
>>>>>>>> sys 0m1.133s 0m1.133s 0m1.129s
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is big win on patched kernel, and it is similar to above tmpfs
>>>>>>>> test, so maybe we could revert the commit c79b57e462b5 ("mm: hugetlb:
>>>>>>>> clear target sub-page last when clearing huge page").
>>>>
>>>> I tried the following changes,
>>>> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
>>>> index 66cf855dee3f..e5cc75adfa10 100644
>>>> --- a/mm/memory.c
>>>> +++ b/mm/memory.c
>>>> @@ -6777,7 +6777,7 @@ static inline int process_huge_page(
>>>> base = 0;
>>>> l = n;
>>>> /* Process subpages at the end of huge page */
>>>> - for (i = nr_pages - 1; i >= 2 * n; i--) {
>>>> + for (i = 2 * n; i < nr_pages; i++) {
>>>> cond_resched();
>>>> ret = process_subpage(addr + i * PAGE_SIZE, i,
>>>> arg);
>>>> if (ret)
>>>>
>>>> Since n = 0, so the copying is from start to end now, but not
>>>> improvement for case-anon-cow-seq-hugetlb,
>>>>
>>>> and if use copy_user_gigantic_pager, the time reduced from 6s to 3s
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
>>>> index fe21bd3beff5..2c6532d21d84 100644
>>>> --- a/mm/memory.c
>>>> +++ b/mm/memory.c
>>>> @@ -6876,10 +6876,7 @@ int copy_user_large_folio(struct folio *dst,
>>>> struct folio *src,
>>>> .vma = vma,
>>>> };
>>>>
>>>> - if (unlikely(nr_pages > MAX_ORDER_NR_PAGES))
>>>> - return copy_user_gigantic_page(dst, src, addr_hint,
>>>> vma, nr_pages);
>>>> -
>>>> - return process_huge_page(addr_hint, nr_pages, copy_subpage, &arg);
>>>> + return copy_user_gigantic_page(dst, src, addr_hint, vma, nr_pages);
>>>> }
>>> It appears that we have code generation issue here. Can you check
>>> it?
>>> Whether code is inlined in the same way?
>>>
>>
>> No different, and I checked the asm, both process_huge_page and
>> copy_user_gigantic_page are inlined, it is strange...
>
> It's not inlined in my configuration. And __always_inline below changes
> it for me.
>
> If it's already inlined and the code is actually almost same, why
> there's difference? Is it possible for you to do some profile or
> further analysis?
Yes, will continue to debug this.
>
>>> Maybe we can start with
>>> modified mm/memory.c
>>> @@ -6714,7 +6714,7 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(__might_fault);
>>> * operation. The target subpage will be processed last to keep its
>>> * cache lines hot.
>>> */
>>> -static inline int process_huge_page(
>>> +static __always_inline int process_huge_page(
>>> unsigned long addr_hint, unsigned int nr_pages,
>>> int (*process_subpage)(unsigned long addr, int idx, void *arg),
>>> void *arg)
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Huang, Ying
>
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Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-17 14:25 [PATCH] mm: shmem: avoid repeated flush dcache in shmem_writepage() Kefeng Wang
2024-10-17 14:25 ` [PATCH] mm: shmem: convert to use folio_zero_range() Kefeng Wang
2024-10-17 15:09 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-10-18 5:20 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-18 5:23 ` Barry Song
2024-10-18 7:32 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-18 7:47 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 4:15 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 5:16 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 5:38 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 6:09 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 7:47 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 7:55 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 8:14 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 9:17 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 15:33 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 20:32 ` Barry Song
2024-10-22 15:10 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-22 22:56 ` Barry Song
2024-10-24 10:10 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-25 2:59 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-25 7:42 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-25 7:47 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-25 10:21 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-25 12:21 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-25 13:35 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-28 2:39 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-28 6:37 ` Kefeng Wang [this message]
2024-10-28 11:41 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-30 1:26 ` Huang, Ying
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