From: "Pratik R. Sampat" <prsampat@amd.com>
To: Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-coco@lists.linux.dev, x86@kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
ardb@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@kernel.org,
osalvador@suse.de, thomas.lendacky@amd.com, michael.roth@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] mm/memory_hotplug: Add support to unaccept memory after hot-remove
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2026 16:56:57 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <928e1004-231d-4dfa-a7fd-0ae2d0e13616@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aWdwIvzPDqY21cbS@thinkstation>
On 1/14/26 4:47 AM, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2026 at 12:22:33PM -0600, Pratik R. Sampat wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 1/13/26 11:53 AM, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2026 at 11:10:21AM -0600, Pratik R. Sampat wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/13/2026 4:28 AM, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 02:23:00PM -0600, Pratik R. Sampat wrote:
>>>>>> Transition memory to the shared state during a hot-remove operation so
>>>>>> that it can be re-used by the hypervisor. This also applies when memory
>>>>>> is intended to be hotplugged back in later, as those pages will need to
>>>>>> be re-accepted after crossing the trust boundary.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hm. What happens when we hot-remove memory that was there at the boot
>>>>> and there's bitmap space for it?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> While hotplug ranges gotten from SRAT don't seem to overlap with the
>>>> conventional ranges in the unaccepted table, EFI_MEMORY_HOT_PLUGGABLE
>>>> attribute could indicate boot time memory that could be hot-removed. I
>>>> could potentially unset the bitmap first, if the bit exists and then
>>>> unaccept.
>>>>
>>>> Similarly, I could also check if the bitmap is large enough to set the
>>>> bit before I call arch_accept_memory() (This may not really be needed
>>>> though).
>>>>
>>>>> Also, I'm not sure why it is needed. At least in TDX case, VMM can pull
>>>>> the memory from under guest at any time without a warning. Coverting
>>>>> memory to shared shouldn't make a difference as along as re-adding the
>>>>> same GPA range triggers accept.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That makes sense. The only scenario where we could run into trouble on
>>>> SNP platforms is when we redo a qemu device_add after a device_del
>>>> without first removing the memory object entirely since same-state
>>>> transitions result in guest termination.
>>>>
>>>> This means we must always follow a device_del with an object_del on
>>>> removal. Otherwise, the onus would then be on the VMM to transition
>>>> the memory back to shared before re-adding it to the guest.
>>>
>>> This seems to be one-of-many possible ways of VMM to get guest terminated.
>>> DoS is not in something confidential computing aims to prevent.
>>>
>>>> However, if this flow is not a concern to begin with then I could
>>>> probably just drop this patch?
>>>
>>> Yes, please.
>>
>> Putting more thought into it, memory unacceptance on remove may be required
>> after all at least for SNP platforms.
>>
>> Consider a scenario:
>> * Guest accepts a GPA say G1, mapped to a host physical address H1.
>> * We attempt to hot-remove the memory. If the guest does not unaccept the memory
>> now then G1 to H1 mapping within the RMP will still exist.
>> * Then if the hypervisor later hot-adds the memory to G1, it will be now mapped
>> to H3 and this new mapping will be accepted.
>>
>> This will essentially mean that we have 2 RMP entries: One for H1 and another
>> for H3 mapped for G1 which are both validated / accepted which can then be
>> swapped at will and compromise integrity.
>
> I don't know much about SEV, but I assume RMP is similar to PAMT in TDX
> where TDX module maintains metadata for host physical memory.
>
> What side problems do you for guest here?
>
> I probably miss something, but it seems to be VMM problem, no? I mean if
> VMM doesn't update RMP on replacing one HPA to another for the GPA, it
> is bug in VMM housekeeping. Guest is not responsible for this.
>
Right, the problem is that we do not inherently trust the host to make change.
That is why in my understanding, the guest is responsible for validating and
rescinding those pages.
--Pratik
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-14 22:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-12 20:22 [PATCH v2 0/2] SEV-SNP Unaccepted Memory Hotplug Pratik R. Sampat
2026-01-12 20:22 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/memory_hotplug: Add support to accept memory during hot-add Pratik R. Sampat
2026-01-12 21:04 ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-12 22:23 ` Pratik R. Sampat
2026-01-12 22:43 ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-13 5:52 ` Pratik R. Sampat
2026-01-13 3:52 ` kernel test robot
2026-01-13 8:56 ` kernel test robot
2026-01-14 10:30 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 22:56 ` Pratik R. Sampat
2026-01-12 20:23 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm/memory_hotplug: Add support to unaccept memory after hot-remove Pratik R. Sampat
2026-01-13 10:28 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-01-13 17:10 ` Pratik R. Sampat
2026-01-13 17:53 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-01-13 18:22 ` Pratik R. Sampat
2026-01-14 10:47 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-01-14 22:56 ` Pratik R. Sampat [this message]
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