From: Qu Wenruo <quwenruo.btrfs@gmx.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Qu Wenruo <wqu@suse.com>,
linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
shakeel.butt@linux.dev, muchun.song@linux.dev,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 2/3] btrfs: always uses root memcgroup for filemap_add_folio()
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 07:41:19 +0930 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9202429f-e933-4212-a513-e065ba02517a@gmx.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zpqs0HdfPCy2hfDh@tiehlicka>
在 2024/7/20 03:43, Michal Hocko 写道:
> On Fri 19-07-24 13:02:06, Johannes Weiner wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 07:58:40PM +0930, Qu Wenruo wrote:
>>> [BACKGROUND]
>>> The function filemap_add_folio() charges the memory cgroup,
>>> as we assume all page caches are accessible by user space progresses
>>> thus needs the cgroup accounting.
>>>
>>> However btrfs is a special case, it has a very large metadata thanks to
>>> its support of data csum (by default it's 4 bytes per 4K data, and can
>>> be as large as 32 bytes per 4K data).
>>> This means btrfs has to go page cache for its metadata pages, to take
>>> advantage of both cache and reclaim ability of filemap.
>>>
>>> This has a tiny problem, that all btrfs metadata pages have to go through
>>> the memcgroup charge, even all those metadata pages are not
>>> accessible by the user space, and doing the charging can introduce some
>>> latency if there is a memory limits set.
>>>
>>> Btrfs currently uses __GFP_NOFAIL flag as a workaround for this cgroup
>>> charge situation so that metadata pages won't really be limited by
>>> memcgroup.
>>>
>>> [ENHANCEMENT]
>>> Instead of relying on __GFP_NOFAIL to avoid charge failure, use root
>>> memory cgroup to attach metadata pages.
>>>
>>> With root memory cgroup, we directly skip the charging part, and only
>>> rely on __GFP_NOFAIL for the real memory allocation part.
>>>
>>> Suggested-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
>>> Suggested-by: Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) <vbabka@kernel.org>
>>> Signed-off-by: Qu Wenruo <wqu@suse.com>
>>> ---
>>> fs/btrfs/extent_io.c | 10 ++++++++++
>>> 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/fs/btrfs/extent_io.c b/fs/btrfs/extent_io.c
>>> index aa7f8148cd0d..cfeed7673009 100644
>>> --- a/fs/btrfs/extent_io.c
>>> +++ b/fs/btrfs/extent_io.c
>>> @@ -2971,6 +2971,7 @@ static int attach_eb_folio_to_filemap(struct extent_buffer *eb, int i,
>>>
>>> struct btrfs_fs_info *fs_info = eb->fs_info;
>>> struct address_space *mapping = fs_info->btree_inode->i_mapping;
>>> + struct mem_cgroup *old_memcg;
>>> const unsigned long index = eb->start >> PAGE_SHIFT;
>>> struct folio *existing_folio = NULL;
>>> int ret;
>>> @@ -2981,8 +2982,17 @@ static int attach_eb_folio_to_filemap(struct extent_buffer *eb, int i,
>>> ASSERT(eb->folios[i]);
>>>
>>> retry:
>>> + /*
>>> + * Btree inode is a btrfs internal inode, and not exposed to any
>>> + * user.
>>> + * Furthermore we do not want any cgroup limits on this inode.
>>> + * So we always use root_mem_cgroup as our active memcg when attaching
>>> + * the folios.
>>> + */
>>> + old_memcg = set_active_memcg(root_mem_cgroup);
>>> ret = filemap_add_folio(mapping, eb->folios[i], index + i,
>>> GFP_NOFS | __GFP_NOFAIL);
>
> I thoutght you've said that NOFAIL was added to workaround memcg
> charges. Can you remove it when memcg is out of the picture?
Sure, but that would be a dedicated patch, as we need to add the -ENOMEM
handling.
I already have such a patch before:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-btrfs/d6a9c038e12f1f2dae353f1ba657ba0666f0aaaa.1720159494.git.wqu@suse.com/
But that's before the memcgroup change.
I'd prefer to have all the larger folio fully tested and merged, then
cleanup the NOFAIL flags.
>
> It would be great to add some background about how much memory are we
> talking about. Because this might require memcg configuration in some
> setups.
>
>>> + set_active_memcg(old_memcg);
>>
>> It looks correct. But it's going through all dance to set up
>> current->active_memcg, then have the charge path look that up,
>> css_get(), call try_charge() only to bail immediately, css_put(), then
>> update current->active_memcg again. All those branches are necessary
>> when we want to charge to a "real" other cgroup. But in this case, we
>> always know we're not charging, so it seems uncalled for.
>>
>> Wouldn't it be a lot simpler (and cheaper) to have a
>> filemap_add_folio_nocharge()?
>
> Yes, that would certainly simplify things. From the previous discussion
> I understood that there would be broader scopes which would opt-out from
> charging. If this is really about a single filemap_add_folio call then
> having a variant without doesn't call mem_cgroup_charge sounds like a
> much more viable option and also it doesn't require to make any memcg
> specific changes.
>
I'm not 100% sure if the VFS guys are happy with that.
The current filemap folio interfaces are already much concentraced,
other than all the various page based interfaces for different situations.
E.g. we have the following wrappers related to filemap page cache
search/creation:
- find_get_page() and find_get_page_flags()
- find_lock_page()
- find_or_create_page()
- grab_cache_page_nowait()
- grab_cache_page()
Meanwhile just two folio interfaces:
- filemap_get_folio()
- __fielmap_get_folio()
So according to the trend, I'm pretty sure VFS people will reject such
new interface just to skip accounting.
Thus the GFP_NO_ACCOUNT solution looks more feasible.
Thanks,
Qu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-19 22:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-19 10:28 [PATCH v7 0/3] btrfs: try to allocate larger folios for metadata Qu Wenruo
2024-07-19 10:28 ` [PATCH v7 1/3] memcontrol: define root_mem_cgroup for CONFIG_MEMCG=n cases Qu Wenruo
2024-07-19 11:13 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 21:58 ` Qu Wenruo
2024-07-22 7:32 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 10:28 ` [PATCH v7 2/3] btrfs: always uses root memcgroup for filemap_add_folio() Qu Wenruo
2024-07-19 17:02 ` Johannes Weiner
2024-07-19 17:25 ` Roman Gushchin
2024-07-19 18:13 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 22:11 ` Qu Wenruo [this message]
2024-07-22 7:34 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-22 8:08 ` Qu Wenruo
2024-07-24 3:46 ` Qu Wenruo
2024-07-19 10:28 ` [PATCH v7 3/3] btrfs: prefer to allocate larger folio for metadata Qu Wenruo
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