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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20201006205103.268F74A9@viggo.jf.intel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: Ugh, sorry about that. I fat-fingered the wrong cover letter! This should have been Subject: [v4] Migrate Pages in lieu of discard -- Changes since (automigrate-20200818): * Fall back to normal reclaim when demotion fails The full series is also available here: https://github.com/hansendc/linux/tree/automigrate-20200818 I really just want folks to look at: [RFC][PATCH 08/12] mm/migrate: demote pages during reclaim I've reworked that so that it can both use the high-level migration API, and fall back to normal reclaim if migration fails. I think that gives us the best of both worlds. I'm posting the series in case folks want to run the whole thing. -- We're starting to see systems with more and more kinds of memory such as Intel's implementation of persistent memory. Let's say you have a system with some DRAM and some persistent memory. Today, once DRAM fills up, reclaim will start and some of the DRAM contents will be thrown out. Allocations will, at some point, start falling over to the slower persistent memory. That has two nasty properties. First, the newer allocations can end up in the slower persistent memory. Second, reclaimed data in DRAM are just discarded even if there are gobs of space in persistent memory that could be used. This set implements a solution to these problems. At the end of the reclaim process in shrink_page_list() just before the last page refcount is dropped, the page is migrated to persistent memory instead of being dropped. While I've talked about a DRAM/PMEM pairing, this approach would function in any environment where memory tiers exist. This is not perfect. It "strands" pages in slower memory and never brings them back to fast DRAM. Other things need to be built to promote hot pages back to DRAM. =3D=3D Open Issues =3D=3D * For cpusets and memory policies that restrict allocations to PMEM, is it OK to demote to PMEM? Do we need a cgroup- level API to opt-in or opt-out of these migrations? Cc: Yang Shi Cc: David Rientjes Cc: Huang Ying Cc: Dan Williams -- Changes since (https://lwn.net/Articles/824830/): * Use higher-level migrate_pages() API approach from Yang Shi's earlier patches. * made sure to actually check node_reclaim_mode's new bit * disabled migration entirely before introducing RECLAIM_MIGRATE * Replace GFP_NOWAIT with explicit __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM and comment why we want that. * Comment on effects of that keep multiple source nodes from sharing target nodes