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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: npiggin@gmail.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	willy@infradead.org, yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/12] mm: tweak page cache migration
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 13:53:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <91c8d990-0b4a-273b-2802-67f12f7dce88@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201006205103.268F74A9@viggo.jf.intel.com>

Ugh, sorry about that.  I fat-fingered the wrong cover letter!

This should have been

Subject: [v4] Migrate Pages in lieu of discard

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Changes since (automigrate-20200818):
 * Fall back to normal reclaim when demotion fails

The full series is also available here:

	https://github.com/hansendc/linux/tree/automigrate-20200818

I really just want folks to look at:

	[RFC][PATCH 08/12] mm/migrate: demote pages during reclaim

I've reworked that so that it can both use the high-level migration
API, and fall back to normal reclaim if migration fails.  I think
that gives us the best of both worlds.

I'm posting the series in case folks want to run the whole thing.

--

We're starting to see systems with more and more kinds of memory such
as Intel's implementation of persistent memory.

Let's say you have a system with some DRAM and some persistent memory.
Today, once DRAM fills up, reclaim will start and some of the DRAM
contents will be thrown out.  Allocations will, at some point, start
falling over to the slower persistent memory.

That has two nasty properties.  First, the newer allocations can end
up in the slower persistent memory.  Second, reclaimed data in DRAM
are just discarded even if there are gobs of space in persistent
memory that could be used.

This set implements a solution to these problems.  At the end of the
reclaim process in shrink_page_list() just before the last page
refcount is dropped, the page is migrated to persistent memory instead
of being dropped.

While I've talked about a DRAM/PMEM pairing, this approach would
function in any environment where memory tiers exist.

This is not perfect.  It "strands" pages in slower memory and never
brings them back to fast DRAM.  Other things need to be built to
promote hot pages back to DRAM.

== Open Issues ==

 * For cpusets and memory policies that restrict allocations
   to PMEM, is it OK to demote to PMEM?  Do we need a cgroup-
   level API to opt-in or opt-out of these migrations?

Cc: Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>

--

Changes since (https://lwn.net/Articles/824830/):
 * Use higher-level migrate_pages() API approach from Yang Shi's
   earlier patches.
 * made sure to actually check node_reclaim_mode's new bit
 * disabled migration entirely before introducing RECLAIM_MIGRATE
 * Replace GFP_NOWAIT with explicit __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM and
   comment why we want that.
 * Comment on effects of that keep multiple source nodes from
   sharing target nodes



  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-06 20:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-06 20:51 Dave Hansen
2020-10-06 20:53 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2020-10-07  9:52 ` Michal Hocko
2020-10-07  9:55   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-10-07 15:52     ` Yang Shi
2020-10-07 15:58       ` Dave Hansen

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