From: Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: "Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
"Hamza Mahfooz" <hamzamahfooz@linux.microsoft.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, "Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>, "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
"Allen Pais" <apais@linux.microsoft.com>,
"Yosry Ahmed" <yosryahmed@google.com>
Subject: Re: A path forward to cleaning up dying cgroups?
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 11:30:10 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <91D2E468-B89A-4DD7-B1B0-B892FA4482E3@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7nqk5crpp7wi65745uiqgpvlomy3cyg3oaimaoz4fg2h4mf7jp@zclymjsovknp>
> On Feb 6, 2025, at 02:46, Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Feb 05, 2025 at 01:08:42PM -0500, Johannes Weiner wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 05, 2025 at 12:50:19PM -0500, Hamza Mahfooz wrote:
>>> Cc: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
>>>
>>> On 2/5/25 12:48, Hamza Mahfooz wrote:
>>>> I was just curious as to what the status of the issue described in [1]
>>>> is. It appears that the last time someone took a stab at it was in [2].
>>
>> If memory serves, the sticking point was whether pages should indeed
>> be reparented on cgroup death, or whether they could be moved
>> arbitrarily to other cgroups that are still using them.
>>
>> It's a bit unfortunate, because the reparenting patches were tested
>> and reviewed, and the arbitrary recharging was just an idea that
>> ttbomk nobody seriously followed up on afterwards.
>>
>> We also recently removed the charge moving code from cgroup1, along
>> with the subtle page access/locking/accounting rules it imposed on the
>> rest of the MM. I'm doubtful there is much appetite in either camp for
>> bringing this back.
>>
>> So I would still love to see Muchun's patches merged. They fix a
>> seemingly universally experienced operational issue in memcg, and we
>> shouldn't hold it up unless somebody actually posts alternative code.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>
> I think the recharging (or whatever the alternative) can be a followup
> to this. I agree this is a good change.
I agree with you. We've been encountering dying memory issues for years
on our servers. As Roman said, I need to refresh my patches. So I need
some time for refreshing.
Muchun,
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-06 3:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-05 17:48 Hamza Mahfooz
2025-02-05 17:50 ` Hamza Mahfooz
2025-02-05 18:08 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-02-05 18:16 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-06 4:56 ` Kairui Song
2025-02-05 18:31 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-02-05 18:46 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-02-06 3:30 ` Muchun Song [this message]
2025-02-06 3:34 ` Waiman Long
2025-02-06 15:51 ` Kamalesh Babulal
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