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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Shivank Garg <shivankg@amd.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Keir Fraser <keirf@google.com>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Frederick Mayle <fmayle@google.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Alexander Krabler <Alexander.Krabler@kuka.com>,
	Ge Yang <yangge1116@126.com>, Li Zhe <lizhe.67@bytedance.com>,
	Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Yuanchu Xie <yuanchu@google.com>, Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>,
	Konstantin Khlebnikov <koct9i@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] mm/gup: check ref_count instead of lru before migration
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2025 22:17:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <919ab2ee-6493-4415-a75b-e1a2b08c0d3e@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d5333648-7b88-9293-dc1f-e080dff65d1a@google.com>

On 08.09.25 21:57, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Sep 2025, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 08.09.25 12:40, Hugh Dickins wrote:
>>> On Mon, 1 Sep 2025, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> On 31.08.25 11:05, Hugh Dickins wrote:
>>>>> diff --git a/mm/gup.c b/mm/gup.c
>>>>> index adffe663594d..82aec6443c0a 100644
>>>>> --- a/mm/gup.c
>>>>> +++ b/mm/gup.c
>>>>> @@ -2307,7 +2307,8 @@ static unsigned long
>>>>> collect_longterm_unpinnable_folios(
>>>>>       	continue;
>>>>>       }
>>>>>     -		if (!folio_test_lru(folio) && drain_allow) {
>>>>> +		if (drain_allow && folio_ref_count(folio) !=
>>>>> +				   folio_expected_ref_count(folio) + 1) {
>>>>>        lru_add_drain_all();
>>>>>        drain_allow = false;
>>>>>       }
>>>>
>>>> In general, to the fix idea
>>>>
>>>>   Acked-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
>>>
>>> Thanks, but I'd better not assume that in v2, even though code the same.
>>> Will depend on how you feel about added paragraph in v2 commit message.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> But as raised in reply to patch #1, we have to be a bit careful about
>>>> including private_2 in folio_expected_ref_count() at this point.
>>>>
>>>> If we cannot include it in folio_expected_ref_count(), it's all going to be
>>>> a
>>>> mess until PG_private_2 is removed for good.
>>>>
>>>> So that part still needs to be figured out.
>>>
>>> Here's that added paragraph:
>>>
>>> Note on PG_private_2: ceph and nfs are still using the deprecated
>>> PG_private_2 flag, with the aid of netfs and filemap support functions.
>>> Although it is consistently matched by an increment of folio ref_count,
>>> folio_expected_ref_count() intentionally does not recognize it, and ceph
>>> folio migration currently depends on that for PG_private_2 folios to be
>>> rejected.  New references to the deprecated flag are discouraged, so do
>>> not add it into the collect_longterm_unpinnable_folios() calculation:
>>> but longterm pinning of transiently PG_private_2 ceph and nfs folios
>>> (an uncommon case) may invoke a redundant lru_add_drain_all().
>>
>> Would we also loop forever trying to migrate these folios if they reside on
>> ZONE_MOVABLE? I would assume that is already the case, that migration will
>> always fail due to the raised reference.
> 
> Loop around forever?  That would be unfortunate (but I presume killable).
> But when I looked, it appeared that any failure of migrate_pages() there
> gets reported as -ENOMEM, which would end up as an OOM?  But you know
> mm/gup.c very much better than I do.

Yes, like I expected, we just bail out. __gup_longterm_locked() will not 
retry in that case. It's interesting that any migration failure is 
treated as -ENOMEM, but well, that's certainly material for a completely 
different discussion.

Thanks Hugh!

-- 
Cheers

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-08 20:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-31  8:57 [PATCH 0/7] mm: better GUP pin lru_add_drain_all() Hugh Dickins
2025-08-31  9:01 ` [PATCH 1/7] mm: fix folio_expected_ref_count() when PG_private_2 Hugh Dickins
2025-08-31 23:37   ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-01  1:17     ` Hugh Dickins
2025-09-01  7:52       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01  8:04         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 10:27           ` Hugh Dickins
2025-09-08 15:06             ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-08 19:47               ` Hugh Dickins
2025-08-31  9:05 ` [PATCH 2/7] mm/gup: check ref_count instead of lru before migration Hugh Dickins
2025-09-01  8:00   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 10:40     ` Hugh Dickins
2025-09-08 14:08       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 19:57         ` Hugh Dickins
2025-09-08 20:17           ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-08-31  9:08 ` [PATCH 3/7] mm/gup: local lru_add_drain() to avoid lru_add_drain_all() Hugh Dickins
2025-09-01  8:05   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 10:53     ` Hugh Dickins
2025-08-31  9:11 ` [PATCH 4/7] mm: Revert "mm/gup: clear the LRU flag of a page before adding to LRU batch" Hugh Dickins
2025-09-01  8:06   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-31  9:13 ` [PATCH 5/7] mm: Revert "mm: vmscan.c: fix OOM on swap stress test" Hugh Dickins
2025-09-01  8:07   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-31  9:16 ` [PATCH 6/7] mm: folio_may_be_cached() unless folio_test_large() Hugh Dickins
2025-09-01  8:13   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 11:19     ` Hugh Dickins
2025-09-08 14:35       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 20:04         ` Hugh Dickins
2025-09-08 20:11           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-31  9:18 ` [PATCH 7/7] mm: lru_add_drain_all() do local lru_add_drain() first Hugh Dickins
2025-09-01  8:14   ` David Hildenbrand

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