From: "Guilherme G. Piccoli" <gpiccoli@igalia.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
sonicadvance1@gmail.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, kernel-dev@igalia.com, kernel@gpiccoli.net,
ebiederm@xmission.com, oleg@redhat.com, yzaikin@google.com,
mcgrof@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, brauner@kernel.org,
viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, willy@infradead.org, dave@stgolabs.net,
joshua@froggi.es
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] Introduce a way to expose the interpreted file with binfmt_misc
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2023 14:33:13 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8dc5069f-5642-cc5b-60e0-0ed3789c780b@igalia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202310091034.4F58841@keescook>
On 09/10/2023 14:37, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 06, 2023 at 02:07:16PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 07.09.23 22:24, Guilherme G. Piccoli wrote:
>>> Currently the kernel provides a symlink to the executable binary, in the
>>> form of procfs file exe_file (/proc/self/exe_file for example). But what
>>> happens in interpreted scenarios (like binfmt_misc) is that such link
>>> always points to the *interpreter*. For cases of Linux binary emulators,
>>> like FEX [0] for example, it's then necessary to somehow mask that and
>>> emulate the true binary path.
>>
>> I'm absolutely no expert on that, but I'm wondering if, instead of modifying
>> exe_file and adding an interpreter file, you'd want to leave exe_file alone
>> and instead provide an easier way to obtain the interpreted file.
>>
>> Can you maybe describe why modifying exe_file is desired (about which
>> consumers are we worrying? ) and what exactly FEX does to handle that (how
>> does it mask that?).
>>
>> So a bit more background on the challenges without this change would be
>> appreciated.
>
> Yeah, it sounds like you're dealing with a process that examines
> /proc/self/exe_file for itself only to find the binfmt_misc interpreter
> when it was run via binfmt_misc?
>
> What actually breaks? Or rather, why does the process to examine
> exe_file? I'm just trying to see if there are other solutions here that
> would avoid creating an ambiguous interface...
>
Thanks Kees and David! Did Ryan's thorough comment addressed your
questions? Do you have any take on the TODOs?
I can maybe rebase against 6.7-rc1 and resubmit , if that makes sense!
But would be better having the TODOs addressed, I guess.
Thanks in advance for reviews and feedback on this.
Cheers,
Guilherme
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-13 17:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-07 20:24 Guilherme G. Piccoli
2023-09-07 20:24 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] binfmt_misc, fork, proc: Introduce flag to expose the interpreted binary in procfs Guilherme G. Piccoli
2023-09-07 20:24 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] fork, procfs: Introduce /proc/self/interpreter symlink Guilherme G. Piccoli
2023-10-06 7:51 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] Introduce a way to expose the interpreted file with binfmt_misc Guilherme G. Piccoli
2023-10-06 12:07 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-09 17:37 ` Kees Cook
2023-10-11 23:53 ` Ryan Houdek
2023-11-13 17:33 ` Guilherme G. Piccoli [this message]
2023-11-13 18:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-11-13 19:16 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-14 16:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-11-14 16:14 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-13 19:17 ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
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