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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Hugh Dickins" <hughd@google.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Yang Shi" <shy828301@gmail.com>, "Yu Zhao" <yuzhao@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	"Ryan Roberts" <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	"Zach O'Keefe" <zokeefe@google.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 6/7] mm: truncate: split huge page cache page to a non-zero order if possible.
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2023 18:05:51 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8dbb3c83-48d-93d-3e3-4c833b81904@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0AC0520E-1BD2-497E-A7ED-05394400BFC9@nvidia.com>

On Mon, 17 Apr 2023, Zi Yan wrote:
> 
> What do you think? If you have a better idea, I am all ears. And if you
> are willing to help me review the more complicated code changes, I am
> more than happy to implement it in the next version. :)

Sorry, no, not me.  You'll have to persuade someone else that "optimizing"
truncation is a worthwhile path to pursue (and to pursue now) - I was just
trying to illustrate that the current patchset didn't seem very useful.

But don't throw your work away.  I expect some of it can become useful
later e.g. once most of the main filesystems support large folios, and
the complication of CONFIG_READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS can be deleted.

I doubt my "minimizing the number of folios" approach would be worth
the effort; I think more likely that we shall settle on an intermediate
folio size (between 4K and THP: maybe 64K, but not necessarily the same
on all machines or all workloads) to aim for, and then maybe truncation
of THP would split to those units.  But it's not a job I shall get into
- I'll just continue to report and try to fix what bugs I see.

Hugh


  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-18  1:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-03 20:18 [PATCH v3 0/7] Split a folio to any lower order folios Zi Yan
2023-04-03 20:18 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] mm/memcg: use order instead of nr in split_page_memcg() Zi Yan
2023-04-03 20:18 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] mm/page_owner: use order instead of nr in split_page_owner() Zi Yan
2023-04-03 20:18 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] mm: memcg: make memcg huge page split support any order split Zi Yan
2023-04-03 20:18 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] mm: page_owner: add support for splitting to any order in split page_owner Zi Yan
2023-04-03 20:18 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] mm: thp: split huge page to any lower order pages Zi Yan
2023-04-16 19:25   ` Hugh Dickins
2023-04-17 14:49     ` Zi Yan
2023-04-03 20:18 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] mm: truncate: split huge page cache page to a non-zero order if possible Zi Yan
2023-04-16 19:44   ` Hugh Dickins
2023-04-16 19:51     ` Hugh Dickins
2023-04-17 15:20     ` Zi Yan
2023-04-18  1:05       ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2023-04-03 20:18 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] mm: huge_memory: enable debugfs to split huge pages to any order Zi Yan
2023-04-04 21:47 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] Split a folio to any lower order folios Andrew Morton
2023-04-16 18:11   ` Hugh Dickins
2023-04-16 18:45     ` Andrew Morton
2023-04-17 14:20     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-04-17 19:26       ` Zi Yan
2023-04-18 10:29         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-04-18 14:00           ` Zi Yan
2024-02-13 12:30 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-02-13 13:46   ` Zi Yan

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