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From: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, rppt@kernel.org, ying.huang@intel.com,
	mgorman@techsingularity.net, vbabka@suse.cz, david@redhat.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] mm/page_alloc: add some comments to explain the possible hole in __pageblock_pfn_to_page()
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2023 19:40:30 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8d4059e3-2e6d-3f0c-2881-13b9bd07aa6c@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZEZpP/ab+zk7GgX7@dhcp22.suse.cz>



On 4/24/2023 7:34 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Mon 24-04-23 19:20:43, Baolin Wang wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 4/24/2023 5:54 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>> On Sun 23-04-23 18:59:11, Baolin Wang wrote:
>>>> Now the __pageblock_pfn_to_page() is used by set_zone_contiguous(), which
>>>> checks whether the given zone contains holes, and uses pfn_to_online_page()
>>>> to validate if the start pfn is online and valid, as well as using pfn_valid()
>>>> to validate the end pfn.
>>>>
>>>> However, the __pageblock_pfn_to_page() function may return non-NULL even
>>>> if the end pfn of a pageblock is in a memory hole in some situations. For
>>>> example, if the pageblock order is MAX_ORDER, which will fall into 2
>>>> sub-sections, and the end pfn of the pageblock may be hole even though
>>>> the start pfn is online and valid.
>>>>
>>>> This did not break anything until now, but the zone continuous is fragile
>>>> in this possible scenario. So as previous discussion[1], it is better to
>>>> add some comments to explain this possible issue in case there are some
>>>> future pfn walkers that rely on this.
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/87r0sdsmr6.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com/
>>>
>>> Do I remember correctly you've had a specific configuration that would
>>> trigger this case?
>>
>> Yes, I provided an example in previous thread [2] so show the
>> __pageblock_pfn_to_page() is fragile in some cases.
>>
>> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/52dfdd2e-9c99-eac4-233e-59919a24323e@linux.alibaba.com/
> 
> Please make it a part of the changelog.

Sure.

>   
>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
>>>> ---
>>>> Changes from v1:
>>>>    - Update the comments per Ying and Mike, thanks.
>>>> ---
>>>>    mm/page_alloc.c | 7 +++++++
>>>>    1 file changed, 7 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
>>>> index 6457b64fe562..9756d66f471c 100644
>>>> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
>>>> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
>>>> @@ -1502,6 +1502,13 @@ void __free_pages_core(struct page *page, unsigned int order)
>>>>     * interleaving within a single pageblock. It is therefore sufficient to check
>>>>     * the first and last page of a pageblock and avoid checking each individual
>>>>     * page in a pageblock.
>>>> + *
>>>> + * Note: the function may return non-NULL even if the end pfn of a pageblock
>>>> + * is in a memory hole in some situations. For example, if the pageblock
>>>> + * order is MAX_ORDER, which will fall into 2 sub-sections, and the end pfn
>>>> + * of the pageblock may be hole even though the start pfn is online and valid.
>>>> + * This did not break anything until now, but be careful about this possible
>>>> + * issue when checking whether all pfns of a pageblock are valid.
>>>
>>> It is not really clear what you should be doing (other than to be
>>> careful which is not helpful much TBH) when you encounter this
>>> situation. If the reality changes and this would break in the future
>>> what would breakage look like? What should be done about that?
>>
>> That depends on what the future pfn walkers do, which may access some hole
>> memory with zero-init page frame. For example, if checking the
>> __PageMovable() for a zero-init page frame, that will crash the system. But
>> I can not list all the possible cases.
>>
>> So how about below words?
>>
>>   * Note: the function may return non-NULL even if the end pfn of a pageblock
>>   * is in a memory hole in some situations. For example, if the pageblock
>>   * order is MAX_ORDER, which will fall into 2 sub-sections, and the end pfn
>>   * of the pageblock may be hole even though the start pfn is online and
>> valid.
>>   * This did not break anything until now, but be careful about this possible
>>   * issue when checking whether all pfns of a pageblock are valid, that may
>>   * lead to accessing empty page frame, and the worst case can crash the
>> system.
>>   * So you should use pfn_to_onlie_page() instead of pfn_valid() to valid the
>>   * pfns in a pageblock if such case happens.
> 
> Does that mean that struct page is not initialized and PagePoisoned will
> trigger or it is just zero-prefilled?

In the example I provided[2], these page frames of the hole memory are 
zero-prefilled.

[2] 
https://lore.kernel.org/all/52dfdd2e-9c99-eac4-233e-59919a24323e@linux.alibaba.com/


  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-24 11:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-23 10:59 [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/page_alloc: drop the unnecessary pfn_valid() for start pfn Baolin Wang
2023-04-23 10:59 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm/page_alloc: add some comments to explain the possible hole in __pageblock_pfn_to_page() Baolin Wang
2023-04-24  2:24   ` Huang, Ying
2023-04-24  9:54   ` Michal Hocko
2023-04-24 11:20     ` Baolin Wang
2023-04-24 11:34       ` Michal Hocko
2023-04-24 11:40         ` Baolin Wang [this message]
2023-04-24 12:08           ` Michal Hocko
2023-04-24 12:48             ` Baolin Wang
2023-04-24 13:08               ` Michal Hocko
2023-04-24  9:50 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/page_alloc: drop the unnecessary pfn_valid() for start pfn Michal Hocko
2023-04-24 10:46   ` Baolin Wang
2023-04-24 10:54     ` Michal Hocko
2023-04-24 11:21       ` Baolin Wang

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