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From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Pavel Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] Improve page poisoning implementation
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 13:55:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8cd78caa-9698-fbcc-9cce-4d9c603f9702@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+CK2bBniDY7uES=Rd0Hn-GNmLGu3cX+0R3QNV3DX9nDmXB=Sg@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/8/20 8:11 AM, Pavel Tatashin wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 11:01 AM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
>>
>> From: "Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>
>>
>> I really don't like that this feature is called page poisoning.
>> We already had something called page poisoning and it's when you detect
>> a memory error in a page.  This is just uninitialised pages.  I don't
> 
> Hi Matthew,
> 
> Thank you for working on this. Uninitialized struct pages are often
> zeroed by firmware, and there were a number of implicit assumptions
> about that memory when I worked on deferred page initializations, this
> is why it is important to also test when struct pages are specifically
> set to a pattern that is not all zeroes, something that can happen
> during kexec, or when memory allocated and freed by kernel during
> boot. We have caught a good number of bugs using this mechanism. So,
> this is poisoning, but I agree "page poisoning" name is misleading, as
> we have this term used in another place. So, lets agree on a better
> term: how about memmap poisoning (s/page_poisoning/memmap_poisoning/)?
> 

Better to avoid the "poison" word entirely. It's just too well-established
as a hardware memory error case. Early ideas for other names, just to get
started: use "uninitialize" or "deinitialize" instead of "poison".
So approximately:

	page_deinit
	page_deinitialize
	page_uninit
	page_uninitialize
	mem_deinit
	...other variations...	

thanks,
-- 
John Hubbard
NVIDIA


      reply	other threads:[~2020-04-09 20:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-08 15:01 Matthew Wilcox
2020-04-08 15:01 ` [PATCH 1/5] mm: Constify a lot of struct page arguments Matthew Wilcox
2020-04-08 15:14   ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-04-09 14:09   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-04-09 14:15     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-04-09 14:28       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-04-09 14:32         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-04-09 14:47           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-04-09 15:00             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-04-09 17:12             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-09 20:47               ` John Hubbard
2020-04-08 15:01 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm: Rename PF_POISONED_PAGE to page_poison_check Matthew Wilcox
2020-04-08 15:21   ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-04-09 14:14   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-04-08 15:01 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm: Remove casting away of constness Matthew Wilcox
2020-04-08 15:23   ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-04-09 14:19   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-04-08 15:01 ` [PATCH 4/5] mm: Check for page poison in both page_to_nid implementations Matthew Wilcox
2020-04-08 15:24   ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-04-09 14:21   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-04-08 15:01 ` [PATCH 5/5] mm: Check page poison before finding a head page Matthew Wilcox
2020-04-08 15:32   ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-04-09 14:25   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-04-08 15:11 ` [PATCH 0/5] Improve page poisoning implementation Pavel Tatashin
2020-04-09 20:55   ` John Hubbard [this message]

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