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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>, muchun.song@linux.dev
Cc: hughd@google.com, willy@infradead.org, vbabka@kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, rppt@kernel.org,
	vishal.moola@gmail.com, peterx@redhat.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
	christophe.leroy2@cs-soprasteria.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/14] mm: pgtable: introduce pte_offset_map_{ro|rw}_nolock()
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 17:31:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8cbd44d9-f39b-4ee8-b1c1-ba89c12c0e23@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <63ef0611-50c2-49b5-ba3f-c6ea81f9fbce@bytedance.com>

On 29.08.24 12:59, Qi Zheng wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2024/8/28 18:48, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 27.08.24 06:33, Qi Zheng wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>>> sufficient AFAIUK.
>>
>> Drop the "AFAIUK" :)
>>
>> "For R/O access this is sufficient."
>>
>>>
>>> pte_offset_map_rw_nolock(mm, pmd, addr, pmdvalp, ptlp), above, is like
>>> pte_offset_map_ro_nolock(); but when successful, it also outputs the
>>> pdmval. For R/W access, the callers can not accept that the page table
>>> it sees has been unmapped and is about to get freed. The pmdval can help
>>> callers to recheck pmd_same() to identify this case once the spinlock is
>>> taken. For some cases where exclusivity is already guaranteed, such as
>>> holding the write lock of mmap_lock, or in cases where checking is
>>> sufficient, such as a !pte_none() pte will be rechecked after the
>>> spinlock is taken, there is no need to recheck pdmval.
>>
>> Right, using pte_same() one can achieve a similar result, assuming that
>> the freed page table gets all ptes set to pte_none().
>>
>> page_table_check_pte_clear_range() before pte_free_defer() in
>> retract_page_tables/collapse_pte_mapped_thp() sanity checks that I think.
> 
> Since commit 1d65b771bc08, retract_page_tables() only holds the
> i_mmap_lock_read(mapping) but not mmap_lock, so it seems that
> holding the write lock of mmap_lock cannot guarantee the stability
> of the PTE page.

Guess it depends. khugepaged on anonymous memory will block any page 
table walkers (like anon THP collapse does) -- per-VMA lock, mmap lock, 
mapping lock/RMAP lock ... so it *should* be sufficient to hold any of 
these, right?

So at least for now, these (anonymous memory) cases would be ok. Likely 
that will change when reclaiming empty page tables.

> 
> IIUC, I will also perform a pmd_same() check on the case where the
> write lock of mmap_lock is held in v3. Or do I miss something?

Can you spell out the instances where you think it might be required.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-29 15:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-22  7:13 [PATCH v2 00/14] " Qi Zheng
2024-08-22  7:13 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] mm: pgtable: " Qi Zheng
2024-08-26  3:45   ` [PATCH v2 01/14 update] " Qi Zheng
2024-08-26 15:21   ` [PATCH v2 01/14] " David Hildenbrand
2024-08-27  4:33     ` Qi Zheng
2024-08-28 10:48       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29  3:27         ` Qi Zheng
2024-08-29 10:59         ` Qi Zheng
2024-08-29 15:31           ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-08-30  6:37             ` Qi Zheng
2024-08-28  9:48   ` Muchun Song
2024-08-22  7:13 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] arm: adjust_pte() use pte_offset_map_rw_nolock() Qi Zheng
2024-08-26 15:26   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29  3:39     ` Muchun Song
2024-08-22  7:13 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] powerpc: assert_pte_locked() use pte_offset_map_ro_nolock() Qi Zheng
2024-08-26 15:28   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29  7:21   ` Muchun Song
2024-08-22  7:13 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] mm: filemap: filemap_fault_recheck_pte_none() " Qi Zheng
2024-08-26 15:29   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29  7:23   ` Muchun Song
2024-08-22  7:13 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] mm: khugepaged: __collapse_huge_page_swapin() " Qi Zheng
2024-08-26 15:33   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29  7:25   ` Muchun Song
2024-08-22  7:13 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] mm: handle_pte_fault() use pte_offset_map_rw_nolock() Qi Zheng
2024-08-26 15:36   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-27  4:53     ` Qi Zheng
2024-08-29  7:30   ` Muchun Song
2024-08-22  7:13 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] mm: khugepaged: collapse_pte_mapped_thp() " Qi Zheng
2024-08-29  8:10   ` Muchun Song
2024-08-30  6:54     ` Qi Zheng
2024-09-05  6:32       ` Muchun Song
2024-09-05  6:41         ` Qi Zheng
2024-09-05  7:18           ` Muchun Song
2024-08-22  7:13 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] mm: copy_pte_range() " Qi Zheng
2024-08-29  8:13   ` Muchun Song
2024-08-29 15:36   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-30  6:42     ` Qi Zheng
2024-08-22  7:13 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] mm: mremap: move_ptes() " Qi Zheng
2024-08-22  7:13 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] mm: page_vma_mapped_walk: map_pte() " Qi Zheng
2024-08-22  7:13 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] mm: userfaultfd: move_pages_pte() " Qi Zheng
2024-08-22  7:13 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: walk_pte_range() " Qi Zheng
2024-08-22  7:13 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] mm: pgtable: remove pte_offset_map_nolock() Qi Zheng
2024-08-22  7:13 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] mm: khugepaged: retract_page_tables() use pte_offset_map_rw_nolock() Qi Zheng

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