From: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
"Uschakow, Stanislav" <suschako@amazon.de>,
Prakash Sangappa <prakash.sangappa@oracle.com>
Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"trix@redhat.com" <trix@redhat.com>,
"nathan@kernel.org" <nathan@kernel.org>,
"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"muchun.song@linux.dev" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
"mike.kravetz@oracle.com" <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
"liam.howlett@oracle.com" <liam.howlett@oracle.com>,
"osalvador@suse.de" <osalvador@suse.de>,
"vbabka@suse.cz" <vbabka@suse.cz>,
"stable@vger.kernel.org" <stable@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Bug: Performance regression in 1013af4f585f: mm/hugetlb: fix huge_pmd_unshare() vs GUP-fast race
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2025 16:47:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8cab934d-4a56-44aa-b641-bfd7e23bd673@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c798628d-9bce-4057-a515-8bc02457f370@kernel.org>
On 11/19/25 17:31, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
> On 19.11.25 17:29, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So what I am currently looking into is simply reducing (batching) the number
>>>> of IPIs.
>>>
>>> As in the IPIs we are now generating in tlb_remove_table_sync_one()?
>>>
>>> Or something else?
>>
>> Yes, for now. I'm essentially reducing the number of
>> tlb_remove_table_sync_one() calls.
>>
>>>
>>> As this bug is only an issue when we don't use IPIs for pgtable freeing right
>>> (e.g. CONFIG_MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE is set), as otherwise
>>> tlb_remove_table_sync_one() is a no-op?
>>
>> Right. But it's still confusing: I think for page table unsharing we
>> always need an IPI one way or the other to make sure GUP-fast was called.
>>
>> At least for preventing that anybody would be able to reuse the page
>> table in the meantime.
>>
>> That is either:
>>
>> (a) The TLB shootdown implied an IPI
>>
>> (b) We manually send one
>>
>> But that's where it gets confusing: nowadays x86 also selects
>> MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE, meaning we would get a double IPI?
>>
>> This is so complicated, so I might be missing something.
>>
>> But it's the same behavior we have in collapse_huge_page() where we first
>
> ... flush and then call tlb_remove_table_sync_one().
>
Okay, I pushed something to
https://github.com/davidhildenbrand/linux.git hugetlb_unshare
I did a quick test and my house did not burn down. But I don't have a
beefy machine to really stress+benchmark PMD table unsharing.
Could one of the original reporters (Stanislav? Prakash?) try it out to
see if that would help fix the regression or if it would be a dead end?
--
Cheers
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-20 15:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-29 14:30 Uschakow, Stanislav
2025-09-01 10:58 ` Jann Horn
2025-09-01 11:26 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-04 12:39 ` Uschakow, Stanislav
2025-10-08 22:54 ` Prakash Sangappa
2025-10-09 7:23 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-09 15:06 ` Prakash Sangappa
2025-10-09 7:40 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-09 8:19 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-16 9:21 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-16 19:13 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-16 18:44 ` Jann Horn
2025-10-16 19:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-16 19:26 ` Jann Horn
2025-10-16 19:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-16 20:25 ` Jann Horn
2025-10-20 15:00 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-20 15:33 ` Jann Horn
2025-10-24 12:24 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 18:22 ` Jann Horn
2025-10-24 19:02 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 19:43 ` Jann Horn
2025-10-24 19:58 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 21:41 ` Jann Horn
2025-10-29 16:19 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-29 18:02 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-18 10:03 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-19 16:08 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-19 16:29 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-19 16:31 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-20 15:47 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) [this message]
2025-12-03 17:22 ` Prakash Sangappa
2025-12-03 19:45 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-10-20 17:18 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-24 9:59 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
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