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From: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	"Uschakow, Stanislav" <suschako@amazon.de>,
	Prakash Sangappa <prakash.sangappa@oracle.com>
Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"trix@redhat.com" <trix@redhat.com>,
	"nathan@kernel.org" <nathan@kernel.org>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"muchun.song@linux.dev" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	"mike.kravetz@oracle.com" <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	"liam.howlett@oracle.com" <liam.howlett@oracle.com>,
	"osalvador@suse.de" <osalvador@suse.de>,
	"vbabka@suse.cz" <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	"stable@vger.kernel.org" <stable@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Bug: Performance regression in 1013af4f585f: mm/hugetlb: fix huge_pmd_unshare() vs GUP-fast race
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2025 16:47:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8cab934d-4a56-44aa-b641-bfd7e23bd673@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c798628d-9bce-4057-a515-8bc02457f370@kernel.org>

On 11/19/25 17:31, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
> On 19.11.25 17:29, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So what I am currently looking into is simply reducing (batching) the number
>>>> of IPIs.
>>>
>>> As in the IPIs we are now generating in tlb_remove_table_sync_one()?
>>>
>>> Or something else?
>>
>> Yes, for now. I'm essentially reducing the number of
>> tlb_remove_table_sync_one() calls.
>>
>>>
>>> As this bug is only an issue when we don't use IPIs for pgtable freeing right
>>> (e.g. CONFIG_MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE is set), as otherwise
>>> tlb_remove_table_sync_one() is a no-op?
>>
>> Right. But it's still confusing: I think for page table unsharing we
>> always need an IPI one way or the other to make sure GUP-fast was called.
>>
>> At least for preventing that anybody would be able to reuse the page
>> table in the meantime.
>>
>> That is either:
>>
>> (a) The TLB shootdown implied an IPI
>>
>> (b) We manually send one
>>
>> But that's where it gets confusing: nowadays x86 also selects
>> MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE, meaning we would get a double IPI?
>>
>> This is so complicated, so I might be missing something.
>>
>> But it's the same behavior we have in collapse_huge_page() where we first
> 
> ... flush and then call tlb_remove_table_sync_one().
> 

Okay, I pushed something to

https://github.com/davidhildenbrand/linux.git hugetlb_unshare

I did a quick test and my house did not burn down. But I don't have a 
beefy machine to really stress+benchmark PMD table unsharing.

Could one of the original reporters (Stanislav? Prakash?) try it out to 
see if that would help fix the regression or if it would be a dead end?

-- 
Cheers

David


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-20 15:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-29 14:30 Uschakow, Stanislav
2025-09-01 10:58 ` Jann Horn
2025-09-01 11:26   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-04 12:39     ` Uschakow, Stanislav
2025-10-08 22:54     ` Prakash Sangappa
2025-10-09  7:23       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-09 15:06         ` Prakash Sangappa
2025-10-09  7:40   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-09  8:19     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-16  9:21     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-16 19:13       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-16 18:44     ` Jann Horn
2025-10-16 19:10       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-16 19:26         ` Jann Horn
2025-10-16 19:44           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-16 20:25             ` Jann Horn
2025-10-20 15:00       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-20 15:33         ` Jann Horn
2025-10-24 12:24           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 18:22             ` Jann Horn
2025-10-24 19:02               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 19:43                 ` Jann Horn
2025-10-24 19:58                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 21:41                     ` Jann Horn
2025-10-29 16:19                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-29 18:02                     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-18 10:03                       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-19 16:08                         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-19 16:29                           ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-19 16:31                             ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-20 15:47                               ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) [this message]
2025-12-03 17:22                                 ` Prakash Sangappa
2025-12-03 19:45                                   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-10-20 17:18         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-24  9:59           ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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