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From: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	ziy@nvidia.com, willy@infradead.org, dhowells@redhat.com,
	hughd@google.com
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ryan.roberts@arm.com, aneesh.kumar@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [QUESTION] xas_reload() in iter_xarray_populate_pages()
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2025 14:48:01 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8b8ce450-0300-4eed-a80f-2e8e18fb4e11@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5bbf39b9-ddfc-4d97-8f08-8bd43223982f@redhat.com>


On 17/06/25 1:17 pm, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 17.06.25 07:10, Dev Jain wrote:
>>
>> On 26/05/25 12:05 pm, Dev Jain wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> After doing an xas_load() and xas_retry(), we take neither a 
>>> reference nor a lock
>>> on the folio, and we do an xas_reload(). Is this just to reduce the 
>>> time window
>>> for a race?
>>>
>>> If the above is true, then, there is a negligible window between 
>>> xas_load() and
>>> xas_reload(), because only xas_retry() exists between them, so why 
>>> to even reload()?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dev
>>
>> I do not completely remember our discussion in THP Cabal; I recall 
>> David Howells maybe
>> saying that the folios are already locked, so it is safe to do 
>> xas_load and then do
>> a folio_get()? Even if we remove the redundant xas_reload(), I still 
>> don't understand
>> why we won't need xas_reload() at least after folio_get()?
>
> I think the points where
>
> (a) this should go all away soon
>
> (b) there is the expectation that the folios cannot get truncated
>     concurrently. So we can do an unconditional folio_get(), don't have
>     to check folio->mapping etc.

Well...pretty sure the file read path is taking the inode->i_rwsem or 
i_lock somewhere,

to synchronize with truncation/reclaim, can't figure out where. Reclaim 
takes the i_lock in __remove_mapping and

then freezes the folio reference, so the read path must lock i_lock 
somewhere.


>
> (c) The xas_reload() seems unnecessary and can be dropped.
>


  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-17  9:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-26  6:35 Dev Jain
2025-05-26  7:40 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-26 19:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-06-17  5:10 ` Dev Jain
2025-06-17  7:47   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-17  9:18     ` Dev Jain [this message]
2025-06-17  9:26       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-17  9:38         ` Dev Jain
2025-06-17 13:47   ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-06-18  3:14     ` Dev Jain

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