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From: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>
To: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: "John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"Mike Rapoport" <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"Willem de Bruijn" <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
	"Björn Töpel" <bjorn.topel@intel.com>,
	"Karlsson, Magnus" <magnus.karlsson@intel.com>,
	"Alexander Duyck" <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>,
	"Mel Gorman" <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	"Tom Herbert" <tom@herbertland.com>,
	"Brenden Blanco" <bblanco@plumgrid.com>,
	"Tariq Toukan" <tariqt@mellanox.com>,
	"Saeed Mahameed" <saeedm@mellanox.com>,
	"Jesse Brandeburg" <jesse.brandeburg@intel.com>,
	"Kalman Meth" <METH@il.ibm.com>,
	"Vladislav Yasevich" <vyasevich@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Designing a safe RX-zero-copy Memory Model for Networking
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 19:39:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8aea213f-2739-9bd3-3a6a-668b759336ae@stressinduktion.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161213171028.24dbf519@redhat.com>

On 13.12.2016 17:10, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
>> What is bad about RDMA is that it is a separate kernel subsystem.
>> What I would like to see is a deeper integration with the network
>> stack so that memory regions can be registred with a network socket
>> and work requests then can be submitted and processed that directly
>> read and write in these regions. The network stack should provide the
>> services that the hardware of the NIC does not suppport as usual.
> 
> Interesting.  So you even imagine sockets registering memory regions
> with the NIC.  If we had a proper NIC HW filter API across the drivers,
> to register the steering rule (like ibv_create_flow), this would be
> doable, but we don't (DPDK actually have an interesting proposal[1])

On a side note, this is what windows does with RIO ("registered I/O").
Maybe you want to look at the API to get some ideas: allocating and
pinning down memory in user space and registering that with sockets to
get zero-copy IO.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-12-13 18:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-05 14:31 Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-12-12  8:38 ` Mike Rapoport
2016-12-12  9:40   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-12-12 14:14     ` Mike Rapoport
2016-12-12 14:49       ` John Fastabend
2016-12-12 17:13         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-12-12 18:06           ` Christoph Lameter
2016-12-13 16:10             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-12-13 16:36               ` Christoph Lameter
2016-12-13 17:43               ` John Fastabend
2016-12-13 19:53                 ` David Miller
2016-12-13 20:08                   ` John Fastabend
2016-12-14  9:39                     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-12-14 16:32                       ` John Fastabend
2016-12-14 16:45                         ` Alexander Duyck
2016-12-14 21:29                           ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-12-14 22:45                             ` Alexander Duyck
2016-12-15  8:28                               ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-12-15 15:59                                 ` Alexander Duyck
2016-12-15 16:38                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-12-14 21:04                         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-12-13 18:39               ` Hannes Frederic Sowa [this message]
2016-12-14 17:00                 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-12-14 17:37                   ` David Laight
2016-12-14 19:43                     ` Christoph Lameter
2016-12-14 20:37                       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-12-14 21:22                         ` Christoph Lameter
2016-12-13  9:42         ` Mike Rapoport
2016-12-12 15:10       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-12-13  8:43         ` Mike Rapoport

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