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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Yuanzheng Song <songyuanzheng@huawei.com>,
	 akpm@linux-foundation.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	david@redhat.com,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH STABLE 5.10] mm/memory: add non-anonymous page check in the copy_present_page()
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 14:58:02 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8aad435-bdc6-816f-2fe4-efe53abd6e5@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y1qdY8oUlUvWl067@x1n>

Let me delete stable from the Cc, this discussion is not for stable.

On Thu, 27 Oct 2022, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 06:48:29PM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > 
> > And I imagined that the correct fix (short of going forward with David's
> > full changes) would be to back out to a context where one could add an
> > anon_vma_prepare(), then retry after that - involves dropping pt lock,
> > maybe gets nasty (tedious, anyway).
> 
> Right, that looks a larger changeset with minimum benefit - the page is
> still inconsistent before fork(), and also for users don't fork() at all
> after the RO pin.

Sorry, I don't understand any of what you're saying there: but you appear
to be saying ("larger changeset with minimum benefit") that my suggestion
would not be worth the effort - fair enough, but...

> 
> It looks to me Hugh's suggestion would be the best suite here for stable.
> Yuanzheng, what do you think?

... now you appear to be saying it would be worth the effort.  Oh,
perhaps you're referring to just the change to check dst anon_vma:
perhaps, but I'm really having to guess at what you mean.

But none of that matters as much as below...

> 
> For the long term I think we should wait for David's further unshare work
> so gup_must_unshare() will work for page caches too while mapped private.

I do wonder if in the long term we shall have to port all David's work
back to 5.15 and 5.10 (but I think there's yet more to come from him).
But set aside that thought for now...

More urgently, in the short term:

Peter, you've made no reference to David's mail, where he concludes that
Yuanzheng's !PageAnon patch is the appropriate one; and
David, you've made no reference to Peter's mail, where he concludes that
my doubts were correct, and it needs a different patch.

You appear to disagree over whether a RO-pinned file page needs to
be copied at fork() time.  I don't know, but I hope you can agree
on that (in the 5.10 and 5.15 context: maybe David is thinking of
the 6.0 context and Peter of the 5.10 context) before going further.

(I'm hoping David is right, and I was plain wrong, since that's easiest.)

Hugh


  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-27 21:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-24  9:49 Yuanzheng Song
2022-10-26 16:52 ` Greg KH
2022-10-27 11:37   ` songyuanzheng
2022-10-26 21:51 ` Hugh Dickins
2022-10-27  0:32   ` Peter Xu
2022-10-27  1:48     ` Hugh Dickins
2022-10-27  2:11       ` songyuanzheng
2022-10-27 15:01       ` Peter Xu
2022-10-27 21:58         ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2022-10-27 22:56           ` Peter Xu
2022-10-28  1:32             ` Hugh Dickins
2022-10-28  4:26               ` David Hildenbrand
2022-10-28 14:39               ` Peter Xu
2022-10-27  7:54   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-10-27 11:55   ` songyuanzheng

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