linux-mm.kvack.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Yajun Deng <yajun.deng@linux.dev>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, mike.kravetz@oracle.com,
	muchun.song@linux.dev, willy@infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] mm: Init page count in reserve_bootmem_region when MEMINIT_EARLY
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 17:58:24 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8a18b38a-9b49-b583-3a54-54fcd843fb9d@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <121772bf-4c1d-3d23-f266-60ce2e879193@linux.dev>


On 2023/10/16 18:17, Yajun Deng wrote:
>
> On 2023/10/16 16:36, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 16.10.23 10:32, Yajun Deng wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2023/10/16 16:16, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> On 16.10.23 10:10, Yajun Deng wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2023/10/16 14:33, Mike Rapoport wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 05:29:19PM +0800, Yajun Deng wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2023/10/13 16:48, Mike Rapoport wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 05:53:22PM +0800, Yajun Deng wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2023/10/12 17:23, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 10.10.23 04:31, Yajun Deng wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023/10/8 16:57, Yajun Deng wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That looks wrong. if the page count would by pure luck be 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>> already for hotplugged memory, you wouldn't clear the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reserved
>>>>>>>>>>>>> flag.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> These changes make me a bit nervous.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is 'if (page_count(page) || PageReserved(page))' be safer? Or
>>>>>>>>>>>> do I
>>>>>>>>>>>> need to do something else?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How about the following if statement? But it needs to add more
>>>>>>>>>>> patch
>>>>>>>>>>> like v1 ([PATCH 2/4] mm: Introduce MEMINIT_LATE context).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It'll be safer, but more complex. Please comment...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         if (context != MEMINIT_EARLY || (page_count(page) ||
>>>>>>>>>>> PageReserved(page)) {
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ideally we could make initialization only depend on the context,
>>>>>>>>>> and not
>>>>>>>>>> check for count or the reserved flag.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This link is v1,
>>>>>>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230922070923.355656-1-yajun.deng@linux.dev/ 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If we could make initialization only depend on the context, I'll
>>>>>>>>> modify it
>>>>>>>>> based on v1.
>>>>>>>> Although ~20% improvement looks impressive, this is only
>>>>>>>> optimization of a
>>>>>>>> fraction of the boot time, and realistically, how much 56 msec
>>>>>>>> saves from
>>>>>>>> the total boot time when you boot a machine with 190G of RAM?
>>>>>>> There are a lot of factors that can affect the total boot time. 56
>>>>>>> msec
>>>>>>> saves may be insignificant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But if we look at the boot log, we'll see there's a significant
>>>>>>> time jump.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> before:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [    0.250334] ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x508
>>>>>>> [    0.618994] Memory: 173413056K/199884452K available (18440K
>>>>>>> kernel code,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> after:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [    0.260229] software IO TLB: area num 32.
>>>>>>> [    0.563497] Memory: 173413056K/199884452K available (18440K
>>>>>>> kernel code,
>>>>>>> Memory:
>>>>>>> Memory initialization is time consuming in the boot log.
>>>>>> You just confirmed that 56 msec is insignificant and then you send
>>>>>> again
>>>>>> the improvement of ~60 msec in memory initialization.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What does this improvement gain in percentage of total boot time?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> before:
>>>>>
>>>>> [   10.692708] Run /init as init process
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> after:
>>>>>
>>>>> [   10.666290] Run /init as init process
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> About 0.25%. The total boot time is variable, depending on how many
>>>>> drivers need to be initialized.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I still think the improvement does not justify the churn, added
>>>>>>>> complexity
>>>>>>>> and special casing of different code paths of initialization of
>>>>>>>> struct pages.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because there is a loop, if the order is MAX_ORDER, the loop will
>>>>>>> run 1024
>>>>>>> times. The following 'if' would be safer:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 'if (context != MEMINIT_EARLY || (page_count(page) || >>
>>>>>>> PageReserved(page))
>>>>>>> {'
>>>>>> No, it will not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As the matter of fact any condition here won't be 'safer' because it
>>>>>> makes
>>>>>> the code more complex and less maintainable.
>>>>>> Any future change in __free_pages_core() or one of it's callers will
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> to reason what will happen with that condition after the change.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To avoid introducing MEMINIT_LATE context and make code simpler. This
>>>>> might be a better option.
>>>>>
>>>>> if (page_count(page) || PageReserved(page))
>>>>
>>>> I'll have to side with Mike here; this change might not be worth it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, I got it. Thanks!
>>
>> IMHO instead of adding more checks to that code we should try to 
>> unify that handling such that we can just remove it. As expressed, at 
>> least from the memory hotplug perspective there are still reasons why 
>> we need that; I can provide some guidance on how to eventually 
>> achieve that, but it might end up in a bit of work ...
>
>
> Yes, we can't remove it right now. If we want to do that, we have to 
> clean up rely on page count and PageReserved first.


How about making __free_pages_core separate, like:

void __init __free_pages_core_early(struct page *page, unsigned int order)
{
         unsigned int nr_pages = 1 << order;

         atomic_long_add(nr_pages, &page_zone(page)->managed_pages);

         if (page_contains_unaccepted(page, order)) {
                 if (order == MAX_ORDER && __free_unaccepted(page))
                         return;

                 accept_page(page, order);
         }

         /*
          * Bypass PCP and place fresh pages right to the tail, primarily
          * relevant for memory onlining.
          */
         __free_pages_ok(page, order, FPI_TO_TAIL);
}

void __free_pages_core(struct page *page, unsigned int order)
{
         unsigned int nr_pages = 1 << order;
         struct page *p = page;
         unsigned int loop;

         /*
          * When initializing the memmap, __init_single_page() sets the 
refcount
          * of all pages to 1 ("allocated"/"not free"). We have to set the
          * refcount of all involved pages to 0.
          */
         prefetchw(p);
         for (loop = 0; loop < (nr_pages - 1); loop++, p++) {
                 prefetchw(p + 1);
                 __ClearPageReserved(p);
                 set_page_count(p, 0);
         }
         __ClearPageReserved(p);
         set_page_count(p, 0);

         __free_pages_core_early(page, order);
}

We only change the caller we need to __free_pages_core_early, it doesn't 
affect other callers.

>
>>
>> Anyhow, thanks for bringing up that topic; it reminded me that I 
>> still have pending cleanups to not rely on PageReserved on the memory 
>> hotplug path.
>>


      reply	other threads:[~2023-10-17  9:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-28  8:33 [PATCH v4 0/2] mm: Don't set and reset page count in MEMINIT_EARLY Yajun Deng
2023-09-28  8:33 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] mm: pass page count and reserved to __init_single_page Yajun Deng
2023-09-29  8:19   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-09-29  9:37     ` Yajun Deng
2023-09-28  8:33 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] mm: Init page count in reserve_bootmem_region when MEMINIT_EARLY Yajun Deng
2023-09-29  8:30   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-09-29  9:50     ` Yajun Deng
2023-09-29 10:02       ` Mike Rapoport
2023-09-29 10:27         ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-01 18:59           ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-02  7:03             ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-02  8:47               ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-02  8:56                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-02 11:10                   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-02 11:25                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-03 14:38                       ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-05  5:06                         ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-05 14:04                           ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-12  9:19                             ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-12  9:36                               ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-02  8:30     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-08  8:57       ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-10  2:31         ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-12  9:23           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-12  9:53             ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-13  8:48               ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-13  9:29                 ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-16  6:33                   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-16  8:10                     ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-16  8:16                       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-16  8:32                         ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-16  8:36                           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-16 10:17                             ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-17  9:58                               ` Yajun Deng [this message]

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=8a18b38a-9b49-b583-3a54-54fcd843fb9d@linux.dev \
    --to=yajun.deng@linux.dev \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=david@redhat.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=mike.kravetz@oracle.com \
    --cc=muchun.song@linux.dev \
    --cc=rppt@kernel.org \
    --cc=willy@infradead.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox