From: Yajun Deng <yajun.deng@linux.dev>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, mike.kravetz@oracle.com,
muchun.song@linux.dev, willy@infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] mm: Init page count in reserve_bootmem_region when MEMINIT_EARLY
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 17:58:24 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8a18b38a-9b49-b583-3a54-54fcd843fb9d@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <121772bf-4c1d-3d23-f266-60ce2e879193@linux.dev>
On 2023/10/16 18:17, Yajun Deng wrote:
>
> On 2023/10/16 16:36, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 16.10.23 10:32, Yajun Deng wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2023/10/16 16:16, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> On 16.10.23 10:10, Yajun Deng wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2023/10/16 14:33, Mike Rapoport wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 05:29:19PM +0800, Yajun Deng wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2023/10/13 16:48, Mike Rapoport wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 05:53:22PM +0800, Yajun Deng wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2023/10/12 17:23, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 10.10.23 04:31, Yajun Deng wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023/10/8 16:57, Yajun Deng wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That looks wrong. if the page count would by pure luck be 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>> already for hotplugged memory, you wouldn't clear the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reserved
>>>>>>>>>>>>> flag.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> These changes make me a bit nervous.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is 'if (page_count(page) || PageReserved(page))' be safer? Or
>>>>>>>>>>>> do I
>>>>>>>>>>>> need to do something else?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How about the following if statement? But it needs to add more
>>>>>>>>>>> patch
>>>>>>>>>>> like v1 ([PATCH 2/4] mm: Introduce MEMINIT_LATE context).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It'll be safer, but more complex. Please comment...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> if (context != MEMINIT_EARLY || (page_count(page) ||
>>>>>>>>>>> PageReserved(page)) {
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ideally we could make initialization only depend on the context,
>>>>>>>>>> and not
>>>>>>>>>> check for count or the reserved flag.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This link is v1,
>>>>>>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230922070923.355656-1-yajun.deng@linux.dev/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If we could make initialization only depend on the context, I'll
>>>>>>>>> modify it
>>>>>>>>> based on v1.
>>>>>>>> Although ~20% improvement looks impressive, this is only
>>>>>>>> optimization of a
>>>>>>>> fraction of the boot time, and realistically, how much 56 msec
>>>>>>>> saves from
>>>>>>>> the total boot time when you boot a machine with 190G of RAM?
>>>>>>> There are a lot of factors that can affect the total boot time. 56
>>>>>>> msec
>>>>>>> saves may be insignificant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But if we look at the boot log, we'll see there's a significant
>>>>>>> time jump.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> before:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [ 0.250334] ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x508
>>>>>>> [ 0.618994] Memory: 173413056K/199884452K available (18440K
>>>>>>> kernel code,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> after:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [ 0.260229] software IO TLB: area num 32.
>>>>>>> [ 0.563497] Memory: 173413056K/199884452K available (18440K
>>>>>>> kernel code,
>>>>>>> Memory:
>>>>>>> Memory initialization is time consuming in the boot log.
>>>>>> You just confirmed that 56 msec is insignificant and then you send
>>>>>> again
>>>>>> the improvement of ~60 msec in memory initialization.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What does this improvement gain in percentage of total boot time?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> before:
>>>>>
>>>>> [ 10.692708] Run /init as init process
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> after:
>>>>>
>>>>> [ 10.666290] Run /init as init process
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> About 0.25%. The total boot time is variable, depending on how many
>>>>> drivers need to be initialized.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I still think the improvement does not justify the churn, added
>>>>>>>> complexity
>>>>>>>> and special casing of different code paths of initialization of
>>>>>>>> struct pages.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because there is a loop, if the order is MAX_ORDER, the loop will
>>>>>>> run 1024
>>>>>>> times. The following 'if' would be safer:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 'if (context != MEMINIT_EARLY || (page_count(page) || >>
>>>>>>> PageReserved(page))
>>>>>>> {'
>>>>>> No, it will not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As the matter of fact any condition here won't be 'safer' because it
>>>>>> makes
>>>>>> the code more complex and less maintainable.
>>>>>> Any future change in __free_pages_core() or one of it's callers will
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> to reason what will happen with that condition after the change.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To avoid introducing MEMINIT_LATE context and make code simpler. This
>>>>> might be a better option.
>>>>>
>>>>> if (page_count(page) || PageReserved(page))
>>>>
>>>> I'll have to side with Mike here; this change might not be worth it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, I got it. Thanks!
>>
>> IMHO instead of adding more checks to that code we should try to
>> unify that handling such that we can just remove it. As expressed, at
>> least from the memory hotplug perspective there are still reasons why
>> we need that; I can provide some guidance on how to eventually
>> achieve that, but it might end up in a bit of work ...
>
>
> Yes, we can't remove it right now. If we want to do that, we have to
> clean up rely on page count and PageReserved first.
How about making __free_pages_core separate, like:
void __init __free_pages_core_early(struct page *page, unsigned int order)
{
unsigned int nr_pages = 1 << order;
atomic_long_add(nr_pages, &page_zone(page)->managed_pages);
if (page_contains_unaccepted(page, order)) {
if (order == MAX_ORDER && __free_unaccepted(page))
return;
accept_page(page, order);
}
/*
* Bypass PCP and place fresh pages right to the tail, primarily
* relevant for memory onlining.
*/
__free_pages_ok(page, order, FPI_TO_TAIL);
}
void __free_pages_core(struct page *page, unsigned int order)
{
unsigned int nr_pages = 1 << order;
struct page *p = page;
unsigned int loop;
/*
* When initializing the memmap, __init_single_page() sets the
refcount
* of all pages to 1 ("allocated"/"not free"). We have to set the
* refcount of all involved pages to 0.
*/
prefetchw(p);
for (loop = 0; loop < (nr_pages - 1); loop++, p++) {
prefetchw(p + 1);
__ClearPageReserved(p);
set_page_count(p, 0);
}
__ClearPageReserved(p);
set_page_count(p, 0);
__free_pages_core_early(page, order);
}
We only change the caller we need to __free_pages_core_early, it doesn't
affect other callers.
>
>>
>> Anyhow, thanks for bringing up that topic; it reminded me that I
>> still have pending cleanups to not rely on PageReserved on the memory
>> hotplug path.
>>
prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-17 9:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-28 8:33 [PATCH v4 0/2] mm: Don't set and reset page count in MEMINIT_EARLY Yajun Deng
2023-09-28 8:33 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] mm: pass page count and reserved to __init_single_page Yajun Deng
2023-09-29 8:19 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-09-29 9:37 ` Yajun Deng
2023-09-28 8:33 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] mm: Init page count in reserve_bootmem_region when MEMINIT_EARLY Yajun Deng
2023-09-29 8:30 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-09-29 9:50 ` Yajun Deng
2023-09-29 10:02 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-09-29 10:27 ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-01 18:59 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-02 7:03 ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-02 8:47 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-02 8:56 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-02 11:10 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-02 11:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-03 14:38 ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-05 5:06 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-05 14:04 ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-12 9:19 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-12 9:36 ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-02 8:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-08 8:57 ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-10 2:31 ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-12 9:23 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-12 9:53 ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-13 8:48 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-13 9:29 ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-16 6:33 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-16 8:10 ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-16 8:16 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-16 8:32 ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-16 8:36 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-16 10:17 ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-17 9:58 ` Yajun Deng [this message]
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