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From: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
To: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
Cc: <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Ralph Campbell <rcampbell@nvidia.com>,
	David Nellans <dnellans@nvidia.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 00/49] 1GB PUD THP support on x86_64
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 11:26:03 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <890DE8FE-DAF6-49A2-8C62-40B6FD593B4A@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YD2b9Zt3ETKCpSFd@carbon.dhcp.thefacebook.com>

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On 1 Mar 2021, at 20:59, Roman Gushchin wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 05:35:36PM -0500, Zi Yan wrote:
>> From: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have rebased my 1GB PUD THP support patches on v5.11-mmotm-2021-02-18-18-29
>> and the code is available at
>> https://github.com/x-y-z/linux-1gb-thp/tree/1gb_thp_v5.11-mmotm-2021-02-18-18-29
>> if you want to give it a try. The actual 49 patches are not sent out with this
>> cover letter. :)
>>
>> Instead of asking for code review, I would like to discuss on the concerns I got
>> from previous RFCs. I think there are two major ones:
>>
>> 1. 1GB page allocation. Current implementation allocates 1GB pages from CMA
>>    regions that are reserved at boot time like hugetlbfs. The concerns on
>>    using CMA is that an educated guess is needed to avoid depleting kernel
>>    memory in case CMA regions are set too large. Recently David Rientjes
>>    proposes to use process_madvise() for hugepage collapse, which is an
>>    alternative [1] but might not work for 1GB pages, since there is no way of
>>    _allocating_ a 1GB page to which collapse pages. I proposed a similar
>>    approach at LSF/MM 2019, generating physically contiguous memory after pages
>>    are allocated [2], which is usable for 1GB THPs. This approach does in-place
>>    huge page promotion thus does not require page allocation.
>
> Well, I don't think there an alternative to cma as now. When the memory is almost
> filled at least once, any subsequent activity leading to substantial slab allocations
> (e.g. run git gc) will fragment the memory, so that there are virtually no chances
> to find a continuous GB.
>
> It's possible in theory to reduce the fragmentation on 1GB scale by grouping
> non-movable pageblocks, but it seems a separate project.

My experiments showed that finding continuous GBs is possible, but I agree that
CMA is more reliable and 1GB scale defragmentation should be a separate project.


—
Best Regards,
Yan Zi

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-04 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-24 22:35 Zi Yan
2021-02-25 11:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-25 22:13   ` Zi Yan
2021-03-02  8:55     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-03 23:42       ` Zi Yan
2021-03-04  9:26         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-02  1:59 ` Roman Gushchin
2021-03-04 16:26   ` Zi Yan [this message]
2021-03-04 16:45     ` Roman Gushchin
2021-03-30 17:24       ` Zi Yan
2021-03-30 18:02         ` Roman Gushchin
2021-03-31  2:04           ` Zi Yan
2021-03-31  3:09           ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-03-31  3:32             ` Roman Gushchin
2021-03-31 14:48               ` Zi Yan

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