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From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>, Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/4] mm/page_owner: Record task command name
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 13:53:10 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <88619dad-6d41-6a91-a8d6-72e3aaf3575d@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <91fb8637-6550-dc37-a95b-df7812b02b0a@suse.cz>

On 2/3/22 07:10, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 2/2/22 17:53, Waiman Long wrote:
>> On 2/1/22 10:28, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>> Cc Vlastimil
>>>
>>> On Mon 31-01-22 17:03:28, Waiman Long wrote:
>>>> The page_owner information currently includes the pid of the calling
>>>> task. That is useful as long as the task is still running. Otherwise,
>>>> the number is meaningless. To have more information about the allocating
>>>> tasks that had exited by the time the page_owner information is
>>>> retrieved, we need to store the command name of the task.
>>>>
>>>> Add a new comm field into page_owner structure to store the command name
>>>> and display it when the page_owner information is retrieved.
>>> I completely agree that pid is effectivelly useless (if not misleading)
>>> but is comm really telling all that much to compensate for the
>>> additional storage required for _each_ page in the system?
>> Yes, it does add an extra 16 bytes per page overhead. The command name can
>> be useful if one want to find out which userspace command is responsible for
>> a problematic page allocation. Maybe we can remove pid from page_owner to
>> save 8 bytes as you also agree that this number is not that useful.
> Pid could be used to correlate command instances (not perfectly if reuse
> happens), but command name could have a higher chance to be useful. In my
> experience the most useful were the stacktraces and gfp/order etc. anyway.
> So I wouldn't be opposed replacing pid with comm. The mild size increase
> should be acceptable, this is an opt-in feature for debugging sessions with
> known tradeoff for memory and cpu overhead for the extra info.

Thanks for the information.

I floated around dropping pid just as a possible way to reduce overall 
memory overhead. I did not do that in my patch and I am not planning to 
post any patch unless everybody agree.

Cheer,
Longman



  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-03 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-31 19:23 [PATCH v3 0/4] mm/page_owner: Extend page_owner to show memcg information Waiman Long
2022-01-31 19:23 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] lib/vsprintf: Avoid redundant work with 0 size Waiman Long
2022-01-31 20:42   ` Mike Rapoport
2022-01-31 19:23 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] mm/page_owner: Use scnprintf() to avoid excessive buffer overrun check Waiman Long
2022-01-31 20:38   ` Roman Gushchin
2022-01-31 20:43   ` Mike Rapoport
2022-01-31 19:23 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] mm/page_owner: Print memcg information Waiman Long
2022-01-31 20:51   ` Mike Rapoport
2022-01-31 21:43     ` Waiman Long
2022-02-01  6:23       ` Mike Rapoport
2022-01-31 20:51   ` Roman Gushchin
2022-02-01 10:54   ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-01 17:04     ` Waiman Long
2022-02-02  8:49       ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-02 16:12         ` Waiman Long
2022-01-31 19:23 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] mm/page_owner: Record task command name Waiman Long
2022-01-31 20:54   ` Roman Gushchin
2022-01-31 21:46     ` Waiman Long
2022-01-31 22:03   ` [PATCH v4 " Waiman Long
2022-02-01 15:28     ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-02 16:53       ` Waiman Long
2022-02-03 12:10         ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-02-03 18:53           ` Waiman Long [this message]
2022-02-02 20:30   ` [PATCH v4 0/4] mm/page_owner: Extend page_owner to show memcg information Waiman Long
2022-02-02 23:06     ` Rafael Aquini
2022-02-02 20:30   ` [PATCH v4 1/4] lib/vsprintf: Avoid redundant work with 0 size Waiman Long
2022-02-08 10:08     ` Petr Mladek
2022-02-02 20:30   ` [PATCH v4 2/4] mm/page_owner: Use scnprintf() to avoid excessive buffer overrun check Waiman Long
2022-02-03 15:46     ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-02-03 18:49       ` Waiman Long
2022-02-08 10:51         ` Petr Mladek
2022-02-02 20:30   ` [PATCH v4 3/4] mm/page_owner: Print memcg information Waiman Long
2022-02-03  6:53     ` Mike Rapoport
2022-02-03 12:46     ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-03 19:03       ` Waiman Long
2022-02-07 17:20         ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-07 19:09           ` Andrew Morton
2022-02-07 19:33             ` Waiman Long
2022-02-02 20:30   ` [PATCH v4 4/4] mm/page_owner: Record task command name Waiman Long

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