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From: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>
To: Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>,
	Robert Jennings <rcj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Jenifer Hopper <jhopper@us.ibm.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Larry Woodman <lwoodman@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	devel@driverdev.osuosl.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCHv2 8/9] zswap: add to mm/
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:16:58 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <880965bb-90af-4a0f-9971-6bb8eb9ba2b7@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<1357590280-31535-9-git-send-email-sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>>

> From: Seth Jennings [mailto:sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com]
> Subject: [PATCHv2 8/9] zswap: add to mm/
> 
> zswap is a thin compression backend for frontswap. It receives
> pages from frontswap and attempts to store them in a compressed
> memory pool, resulting in an effective partial memory reclaim and
> dramatically reduced swap device I/O.
> 
> Additional, in most cases, pages can be retrieved from this
> compressed store much more quickly than reading from tradition
> swap devices resulting in faster performance for many workloads.
> 
> This patch adds the zswap driver to mm/
> 
> Signed-off-by: Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

I've implemented the equivalent of zswap_flush_*
in zcache.  It looks much better than my earlier
attempt at similar code to move zpages to swap.
Nice work and thanks!

But... (isn't there always a "but";-)...

> +/*
> + * This limits is arbitrary for now until a better
> + * policy can be implemented. This is so we don't
> + * eat all of RAM decompressing pages for writeback.
> + */
> +#define ZSWAP_MAX_OUTSTANDING_FLUSHES 64
> +	if (atomic_read(&zswap_outstanding_flushes) >
> +		ZSWAP_MAX_OUTSTANDING_FLUSHES)
> +		return;

>From what I can see, zcache is in some ways more aggressive in
some circumstances in "flushing" (zcache calls it "unuse"),
and in some ways less aggressive.  But with significant exercise,
I can always cause the kernel to OOM when it is under heavy
memory pressure and the flush/unuse code is being used.

Have you given any further thought to "a better policy"
(see the comment in the snippet above)?  I'm going
to try a smaller number than 64 to see if the OOMs
go away, but choosing a random number for this throttling
doesn't seem like a good plan for moving forward.

Thanks,
Dan

P.S. I know you, like I, often use something kernbench-ish to
exercise your code.  I've found that compiling a kernel,
then switching to another kernel directory, doing a git pull,
and compiling that kernel, causes a lot of flushes/unuses
and the OOMs.  (This with 1GB RAM booting RHEL6 with a full GUI.)

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       reply	other threads:[~2013-01-10 22:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <<1357590280-31535-1-git-send-email-sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
     [not found] ` <<1357590280-31535-9-git-send-email-sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2013-01-10 22:16   ` Dan Magenheimer [this message]
2013-01-07 20:24 [PATCHv2 0/9] zswap: compressed swap caching Seth Jennings
2013-01-07 20:24 ` [PATCHv2 8/9] zswap: add to mm/ Seth Jennings
2013-01-08 17:15   ` Dave Hansen
2013-01-08 17:54     ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-01-25 22:44   ` Rik van Riel
2013-01-25 23:15     ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-01-28 15:27     ` Seth Jennings
2013-01-29 10:21       ` Lord Glauber Costa of Sealand
2013-02-07 16:13         ` Seth Jennings
2013-02-11 19:13           ` Dan Magenheimer

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