From: Zlatko Calusic <Zlatko.Calusic@CARNet.hr>
To: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
Benjamin Redelings I <bredelin@ucsd.edu>,
linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [2.1.130-3] Page cache DEFINATELY too persistant... feature?
Date: 01 Dec 1998 00:13:38 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87yaossrj1.fsf@atlas.CARNet.hr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: "Stephen C. Tweedie"'s message of "Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:15:46 GMT"
"Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com> writes:
> Hi,
>
> On 27 Nov 1998 20:58:38 +0100, Zlatko Calusic <Zlatko.Calusic@CARNet.hr>
> said:
>
> > Yesterday, I was trying to understand the very same problem you're
> > speaking of. Sometimes kswapd decides to swapout lots of things,
> > sometimes not.
>
> > I applied your patch, but it didn't solve the problem.
> > To be honest, things are now even slightly worse. :(
>
> Well, after a few days of running with the patched 2.1.130, I have never
> seen evil cache growth and the performance has been great throughout.
> If you can give me a reproducible way of observing bad worst-case
> behaviour, I'd love to see it, but right now, things like
Be my guest. :)
wc /usr/bin/* never made any problems for me, but:
{atlas} [/image]% ls -al
total 411290
drwxrwxrwt 5 root root 1024 Dec 1 00:00 .
drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 1024 Nov 17 03:04 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 zcalusic users 419430400 Nov 30 23:53 400MB
-rwxr-xr-x 1 zcalusic users 438 Dec 1 00:00 testing-mm
{atlas} [/image]% cat testing-mm
#! /bin/sh
echo "starting vmstat 1 in background" > report-log
vmstat 1 >> report-log &
sleep 5
echo "starting xemacs" >> report-log; xemacs &
sleep 1
echo "starting netscape" >> report-log; netscape &
sleep 1
echo "starting gimp" >> report-log; gimp &
sleep 1
echo "sleep 45 started" >> report-log
sleep 45
echo "sleep 45 done" >> report-log
echo "cp 400MB /dev/null" >> report-log; cp 400MB /dev/null
kill `pidof vmstat`
{atlas} [/image]% ./testing-mm
{atlas} [/image]% cat report-log
starting vmstat 1 in background
procs memory swap io system cpu
r b w swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id
1 0 0 0 19424 3660 19420 35 65 582 590 166 173 7 10 83
0 0 0 0 19376 3660 19420 0 0 0 0 105 8 2 2 96
0 0 0 0 19376 3660 19420 0 0 0 0 104 6 1 2 97
0 0 0 0 19376 3660 19420 0 0 0 0 106 10 2 1 97
0 0 0 0 19376 3660 19420 0 0 0 0 104 6 1 2 97
starting xemacs
1 0 0 0 19120 3660 19500 0 0 62 21 133 37 5 4 91
starting netscape
2 0 0 0 17680 3660 20312 0 0 806 0 232 243 10 10 81
starting gimp
5 0 0 0 14448 3660 20896 0 0 546 0 198 694 65 15 19
5 0 0 0 13308 3660 21388 0 0 412 0 176 829 67 13 20
sleep 45 started
3 0 0 0 11396 3660 22232 0 0 579 0 247 540 83 17 0
3 0 0 0 5520 3660 25012 0 0 2667 7 292 318 86 14 0
3 0 0 0 1752 3276 27040 0 0 2389 0 275 417 85 15 0
1 1 0 0 1532 3276 24144 0 0 3035 0 320 1460 53 23 24
2 0 0 0 1620 3276 22872 0 0 1042 1 250 283 29 5 66
0 3 0 0 1580 3276 22644 0 0 493 118 222 253 15 5 80
2 0 0 0 1536 3276 22620 0 0 106 53 237 139 2 5 93
3 0 0 0 1592 3276 22372 0 0 680 0 194 530 62 10 29
2 0 0 0 1796 3276 21872 0 0 984 0 173 374 66 10 24
3 0 0 0 1592 3276 21688 0 0 634 8 205 1523 37 13 50
2 0 0 0 1624 3276 21196 0 0 656 0 209 3495 59 19 22
2 0 0 0 1588 3276 20808 0 0 407 77 216 287 35 9 57
procs memory swap io system cpu
r b w swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id
2 0 0 0 1576 3276 20200 0 0 404 0 176 1265 62 11 28
1 0 0 0 1652 3276 19520 0 0 516 0 190 1833 64 14 21
2 0 0 0 1576 3276 19344 0 0 507 0 188 864 27 10 63
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 152 83 139 452 21 8 71
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 0 145 14 0 3 97
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 0 104 10 0 3 97
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 0 104 10 1 2 97
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 0 104 20 1 2 97
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 19 114 17 2 2 96
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 0 104 10 0 3 97
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 0 104 12 1 2 97
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 0 104 10 0 3 97
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 0 104 10 0 3 97
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 1 105 17 1 2 97
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 0 104 12 0 3 97
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 0 104 10 0 3 97
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 0 104 10 0 3 97
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 0 104 29 3 1 96
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 1 105 12 1 2 97
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 0 104 12 1 2 97
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 0 104 10 0 3 97
procs memory swap io system cpu
r b w swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 0 107 14 2 1 97
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 0 104 10 0 3 97
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 9 110 14 0 3 97
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 0 105 12 1 2 97
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 0 104 10 0 3 97
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 0 106 13 1 2 97
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 0 105 19 1 3 96
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 0 104 13 0 3 97
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 0 104 10 0 3 97
0 0 0 0 1572 3276 18112 0 0 0 0 104 10 0 3 97
sleep 45 done
cp 400MB /dev/null
0 1 1 276 1008 3284 18980 0 276 5711 69 206 120 2 20 78
1 0 0 1020 1664 3276 19076 4 752 8253 190 270 161 2 40 58
1 0 1 1028 1464 3276 19296 0 8 12540 2 304 187 1 47 52
0 1 1 3488 1504 3276 21712 0 2460 5450 615 267 204 1 28 71
0 1 1 6372 648 3276 25452 0 2892 3766 723 242 186 2 13 85
1 0 1 9336 1172 3276 27892 0 3016 2502 754 250 208 3 12 85
1 0 1 12136 1372 3276 30492 0 2848 2658 723 241 170 1 10 89
0 1 1 15016 1140 3276 33604 0 2912 3153 728 250 220 0 12 88
0 1 1 18016 644 3276 37100 0 3028 3541 757 247 192 2 13 86
0 0 2 21316 1664 3276 39380 0 3340 2329 835 257 240 1 13 87
1 0 1 23916 1204 3276 42440 0 2656 3125 664 244 182 2 14 84
procs memory swap io system cpu
r b w swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id
0 1 1 26468 1000 3276 45196 0 2612 2827 655 233 173 0 18 82
0 1 0 29260 776 3276 48212 0 2848 3084 712 244 178 2 15 83
1 0 1 31692 760 3276 50660 0 2544 2570 636 246 165 0 14 86
1 0 0 32236 1636 3276 50356 0 648 9547 162 285 182 1 35 64
1 3 0 32192 1656 3276 50316 88 0 9256 0 263 190 2 30 68
2 1 0 32140 1668 3276 50244 124 0 4982 0 222 168 1 21 78
1 0 0 32112 1668 3292 50224 60 0 7761 0 240 158 1 34 65
1 0 1 32112 1448 3276 50460 0 0 13588 0 322 202 2 54 44
0 2 0 32104 1664 3300 50212 12 0 12123 0 266 188 3 55 42
1 0 1 32088 1412 3276 50484 24 0 10550 0 284 181 2 40 58
1 0 1 32068 1504 3276 50392 32 0 10710 5 282 181 2 40 58
1 0 1 32068 1408 3276 50488 0 0 13200 0 299 205 3 54 43
1 0 0 32068 1664 3340 50168 0 0 13107 0 303 184 1 47 52
2 0 1 32068 1464 3276 50444 0 0 12544 0 299 188 1 52 47
2 0 1 32068 1412 3276 50496 0 0 12385 1 302 195 2 50 48
2 0 0 32068 1668 3276 50240 0 0 12337 0 296 171 1 52 47
2 0 1 32064 1372 3276 50532 24 0 10319 0 276 184 2 41 57
2 0 1 32064 1412 3276 50492 0 0 11822 0 283 181 1 45 54
2 0 0 32064 1560 3276 50380 0 0 12336 0 296 178 1 48 51
0 2 0 32024 1656 3276 50252 56 0 5516 3 216 144 2 20 78
1 1 0 32016 1656 3276 50244 52 0 5237 0 205 129 1 21 78
procs memory swap io system cpu
r b w swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id
1 1 0 32012 1544 3276 50352 56 0 5362 0 207 131 0 19 81
1 1 0 32008 1656 3276 50236 76 0 6091 0 231 166 3 25 72
1 1 0 32000 1668 3328 50164 36 0 5715 0 213 133 0 25 75
1 1 0 31992 1668 3276 50208 76 0 5970 0 221 165 1 18 81
1 1 1 31980 1404 3276 50460 44 0 5532 0 215 140 1 22 77
0 3 1 31960 1388 3276 50468 72 0 5002 0 219 153 1 18 81
0 3 0 31916 1644 3276 50172 64 0 5027 0 222 157 2 19 79
1 1 0 31896 1640 3276 50140 28 0 5783 0 226 155 2 24 74
1 1 0 31892 1624 3276 50160 64 0 6746 2 220 143 1 25 74
1 1 0 31888 1568 3276 50212 56 0 7306 0 225 153 2 24 74
1 1 1 31872 1412 3340 50280 48 0 7168 0 247 186 2 25 73
1 1 1 31836 1408 3276 50312 56 0 5717 0 216 147 1 20 79
2 1 0 31820 1640 3276 50080 32 0 10039 0 242 231 1 43 56
3 0 1 31788 1412 3276 50272 80 0 5964 2 220 158 0 27 73
1 1 0 31752 1608 3276 50036 48 0 5525 0 218 152 1 23 76
1 1 0 31736 1664 3276 49964 12 0 4950 0 201 124 1 20 79
1 1 0 31704 1648 3276 49948 56 0 4997 0 210 128 2 16 82
1 1 0 31700 1588 3276 50004 64 0 6557 0 227 152 3 27 70
2 0 0 31660 1656 3340 49840 48 0 6109 1 232 162 2 23 75
1 1 0 31628 1668 3276 49864 56 0 7531 0 227 150 1 35 64
1 1 0 31608 1572 3276 49940 16 0 6866 0 224 166 1 27 72
procs memory swap io system cpu
r b w swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id
1 1 0 31540 1656 3276 49792 48 0 6320 0 237 167 2 28 70
0 2 0 31536 1668 3276 49772 28 0 7218 2 229 169 1 29 70
1 1 0 31524 1668 3276 49800 40 0 4933 0 250 121 2 24 74
2 0 0 31524 1668 3276 49800 12 0 7151 0 252 143 1 28 71
1 1 0 31512 1656 3276 49800 20 0 6010 0 229 136 1 25 74
0 3 0 30600 1616 3296 49756 156 0 2573 0 223 206 1 14 85
1 2 0 30448 1592 3276 49588 308 0 479 2 250 309 2 1 97
Machine in question has 64MB of RAM, which were mostly used by firing
up xemacs, netscape & gimp. Copying 400MB to /dev/null outswapped 32MB
(almost all used memory) in a matter of seconds.
Your patch is applied, of course. :)
Comments?
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[not found] <199811261236.MAA14785@dax.scot.redhat.com>
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.3.95.981126094159.5186D-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
1998-11-27 16:02 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-11-27 17:19 ` Chip Salzenberg
1998-11-27 18:31 ` Linus Torvalds
1998-11-27 19:58 ` Zlatko Calusic
1998-11-30 11:15 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-11-30 23:13 ` Zlatko Calusic [this message]
1998-11-30 12:37 ` Rik van Riel
1998-11-30 15:12 ` Zlatko Calusic
1998-11-30 19:29 ` Rik van Riel
1998-11-30 22:27 ` Zlatko Calusic
1998-11-30 23:11 ` Rik van Riel
1998-11-30 20:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-11-30 22:28 ` Zlatko Calusic
1998-11-28 7:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
1998-11-30 11:13 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-11-30 15:08 ` Rik van Riel
1998-11-30 21:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
1998-11-30 22:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
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