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From: "Huang\, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	 Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,  <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	 <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,  Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	 Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,  <jhladky@redhat.com>,
	 <lvenanci@redhat.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND] autonuma: Fix scan period updating
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 16:16:28 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wog145nn.fsf@yhuang-dev.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190729072845.GC7168@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (Srikar Dronamraju's message of "Mon, 29 Jul 2019 12:58:45 +0530")

Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> writes:

>> >> 
>> >> if (lr_ratio >= NUMA_PERIOD_THRESHOLD)
>> >>     slow down scanning
>> >> else if (sp_ratio >= NUMA_PERIOD_THRESHOLD) {
>> >>     if (NUMA_PERIOD_SLOTS - lr_ratio >= NUMA_PERIOD_THRESHOLD)
>> >>         speed up scanning
>> 
>> Thought about this again.  For example, a multi-threads workload runs on
>> a 4-sockets machine, and most memory accesses are shared.  The optimal
>> situation will be pseudo-interleaving, that is, spreading memory
>> accesses evenly among 4 NUMA nodes.  Where "share" >> "private", and
>> "remote" > "local".  And we should slow down scanning to reduce the
>> overhead.
>> 
>> What do you think about this?
>
> If all 4 nodes have equal access, then all 4 nodes will be active nodes.
>
> From task_numa_fault()
>
> 	if (!priv && !local && ng && ng->active_nodes > 1 &&
> 				numa_is_active_node(cpu_node, ng) &&
> 				numa_is_active_node(mem_node, ng))
> 		local = 1;
>
> Hence all accesses will be accounted as local. Hence scanning would slow
> down.

Yes.  You are right!  Thanks a lot!

There may be another case.  For example, a workload with 9 threads runs
on a 2-sockets machine, and most memory accesses are shared.  7 threads
runs on the node 0 and 2 threads runs on the node 1 based on CPU load
balancing.  Then the 2 threads on the node 1 will have "share" >>
"private" and "remote" >> "local".  But it doesn't help to speed up
scanning.

Best Regards,
Huang, Ying


  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-29  8:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-25  8:01 Huang, Ying
2019-07-25 17:35 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2019-07-26  7:45   ` Huang, Ying
2019-07-26  9:20     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2019-07-29  3:04       ` Huang, Ying
2019-07-29  7:28         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2019-07-29  8:16           ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2019-07-29  8:56             ` Mel Gorman
2019-07-30  1:38               ` Huang, Ying

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