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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: 20240621164406.256314-1-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] x86: Make 5-level paging support unconditional for x86-64
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2024 11:15:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wml16hye.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <80734605-1926-4ac7-9c63-006fe3ea6b6a@amd.com>

On Wed, Jul 31 2024 at 14:27, Shivank Garg wrote:
> lmbench:lat_pagefault: Metric- page-fault time (us) - Lower is better
>                 4-Level PT              5-Level PT		% Change
> THP-never       Mean:0.4068             Mean:0.4294		5.56
>                 95% CI:0.4057-0.4078    95% CI:0.4287-0.4302
>
> THP-Always      Mean: 0.4061            Mean: 0.4288		% Change
>                 95% CI: 0.4051-0.4071   95% CI: 0.4281-0.4295	5.59
>
> Inference:
> 5-level page table shows increase in page-fault latency but it does
> not significantly impact other benchmarks.

5% regression on lmbench is a NONO.

5-level page tables add a cost in every hardware page table walk. That's
a matter of fact and there is absolutely no reason to inflict this cost
on everyone.

The solution to this to make the 5-level mechanics smarter by evaluating
whether the machine has enough memory to require 5-level tables and
select the depth at boot time.

Thanks,

        tglx


  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-31  9:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-31  8:57 Shivank Garg
2024-07-31  9:15 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2024-07-31 11:11   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-31 11:36   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-07-31 11:40     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-31 17:45     ` Shivank Garg
2024-10-31 15:36       ` Dave Hansen

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