From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
Cc: <linux-mm@kvack.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Arjan Van De Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
"David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
"Pavel Tatashin" <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/10] cacheinfo: calculate per-CPU data cache size
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 21:12:00 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v8bcdly7.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231012125253.fpeehd6362c5v2sj@techsingularity.net> (Mel Gorman's message of "Thu, 12 Oct 2023 13:52:53 +0100")
Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net> writes:
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 08:08:32PM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net> writes:
>>
>> > On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 02:18:48PM +0800, Huang Ying wrote:
>> >> Per-CPU data cache size is useful information. For example, it can be
>> >> used to determine per-CPU cache size. So, in this patch, the data
>> >> cache size for each CPU is calculated via data_cache_size /
>> >> shared_cpu_weight.
>> >>
>> >> A brute-force algorithm to iterate all online CPUs is used to avoid
>> >> to allocate an extra cpumask, especially in offline callback.
>> >>
>> >> Signed-off-by: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
>> >
>> > It's not necessarily relevant to the patch, but at least the scheduler
>> > also stores some per-cpu topology information such as sd_llc_size -- the
>> > number of CPUs sharing the same last-level-cache as this CPU. It may be
>> > worth unifying this at some point if it's common that per-cpu
>> > information is too fine and per-zone or per-node information is too
>> > coarse. This would be particularly true when considering locking
>> > granularity,
>> >
>> >> Cc: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
>> >> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
>> >> Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
>> >> Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
>> >> Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
>> >> Cc: Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>
>> >> Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
>> >> Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
>> >> Cc: Pavel Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
>> >> Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
>> >> Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
>> >> ---
>> >> drivers/base/cacheinfo.c | 42 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>> >> include/linux/cacheinfo.h | 1 +
>> >> 2 files changed, 42 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>> >>
>> >> diff --git a/drivers/base/cacheinfo.c b/drivers/base/cacheinfo.c
>> >> index cbae8be1fe52..3e8951a3fbab 100644
>> >> --- a/drivers/base/cacheinfo.c
>> >> +++ b/drivers/base/cacheinfo.c
>> >> @@ -898,6 +898,41 @@ static int cache_add_dev(unsigned int cpu)
>> >> return rc;
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >> +static void update_data_cache_size_cpu(unsigned int cpu)
>> >> +{
>> >> + struct cpu_cacheinfo *ci;
>> >> + struct cacheinfo *leaf;
>> >> + unsigned int i, nr_shared;
>> >> + unsigned int size_data = 0;
>> >> +
>> >> + if (!per_cpu_cacheinfo(cpu))
>> >> + return;
>> >> +
>> >> + ci = ci_cacheinfo(cpu);
>> >> + for (i = 0; i < cache_leaves(cpu); i++) {
>> >> + leaf = per_cpu_cacheinfo_idx(cpu, i);
>> >> + if (leaf->type != CACHE_TYPE_DATA &&
>> >> + leaf->type != CACHE_TYPE_UNIFIED)
>> >> + continue;
>> >> + nr_shared = cpumask_weight(&leaf->shared_cpu_map);
>> >> + if (!nr_shared)
>> >> + continue;
>> >> + size_data += leaf->size / nr_shared;
>> >> + }
>> >> + ci->size_data = size_data;
>> >> +}
>> >
>> > This needs comments.
>> >
>> > It would be nice to add a comment on top describing the limitation of
>> > CACHE_TYPE_UNIFIED here in the context of
>> > update_data_cache_size_cpu().
>>
>> Sure. Will do that.
>>
>
> Thanks.
>
>> > The L2 cache could be unified but much smaller than a L3 or other
>> > last-level-cache. It's not clear from the code what level of cache is being
>> > used due to a lack of familiarity of the cpu_cacheinfo code but size_data
>> > is not the size of a cache, it appears to be the share of a cache a CPU
>> > would have under ideal circumstances.
>>
>> Yes. And it isn't for one specific level of cache. It's sum of per-CPU
>> shares of all levels of cache. But the calculation is inaccurate. More
>> details are in the below reply.
>>
>> > However, as it appears to also be
>> > iterating hierarchy then this may not be accurate. Caches may or may not
>> > allow data to be duplicated between levels so the value may be inaccurate.
>>
>> Thank you very much for pointing this out! The cache can be inclusive
>> or not. So, we cannot calculate the per-CPU slice of all-level caches
>> via adding them together blindly. I will change this in a follow-on
>> patch.
>>
>
> Please do, I would strongly suggest basing this on LLC only because it's
> the only value you can be sure of. This change is the only change that may
> warrant a respin of the series as the history will be somewhat confusing
> otherwise.
I am still checking whether it's possible to get cache inclusive
information via cpuid.
If there's no reliable way to do that. We can use the max value of
per-CPU share of each level of cache. For inclusive cache, that will be
the value of LLC. For non-inclusive cache, the value will be more
accurate. For example, on Intel Sapphire Rapids, the L2 cache is 2 MB
per core, while LLC is 1.875 MB per core according to [1].
[1] https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/articles/technical/fourth-generation-xeon-scalable-family-overview.html
I will respin the series.
Thanks a lot for review!
--
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-12 13:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-20 6:18 [PATCH 00/10] mm: PCP high auto-tuning Huang Ying
2023-09-20 6:18 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm, pcp: avoid to drain PCP when process exit Huang Ying
2023-10-11 12:46 ` Mel Gorman
2023-10-11 17:16 ` Andrew Morton
2023-10-12 13:09 ` Mel Gorman
2023-10-12 13:35 ` Huang, Ying
2023-10-12 12:21 ` Huang, Ying
2023-09-20 6:18 ` [PATCH 02/10] cacheinfo: calculate per-CPU data cache size Huang Ying
2023-09-20 9:24 ` Sudeep Holla
2023-09-22 7:56 ` Huang, Ying
2023-10-11 12:20 ` Mel Gorman
2023-10-12 12:08 ` Huang, Ying
2023-10-12 12:52 ` Mel Gorman
2023-10-12 13:12 ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2023-10-12 15:22 ` Mel Gorman
2023-10-13 3:06 ` Huang, Ying
2023-10-16 15:43 ` Mel Gorman
2023-09-20 6:18 ` [PATCH 03/10] mm, pcp: reduce lock contention for draining high-order pages Huang Ying
2023-10-11 12:49 ` Mel Gorman
2023-10-12 12:11 ` Huang, Ying
2023-09-20 6:18 ` [PATCH 04/10] mm: restrict the pcp batch scale factor to avoid too long latency Huang Ying
2023-10-11 12:52 ` Mel Gorman
2023-10-12 12:15 ` Huang, Ying
2023-09-20 6:18 ` [PATCH 05/10] mm, page_alloc: scale the number of pages that are batch allocated Huang Ying
2023-10-11 12:54 ` Mel Gorman
2023-09-20 6:18 ` [PATCH 06/10] mm: add framework for PCP high auto-tuning Huang Ying
2023-09-20 6:18 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm: tune PCP high automatically Huang Ying
2023-09-20 6:18 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm, pcp: decrease PCP high if free pages < high watermark Huang Ying
2023-10-11 13:08 ` Mel Gorman
2023-10-12 12:19 ` Huang, Ying
2023-09-20 6:18 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm, pcp: avoid to reduce PCP high unnecessarily Huang Ying
2023-10-11 14:09 ` Mel Gorman
2023-10-12 7:48 ` Huang, Ying
2023-10-12 12:49 ` Mel Gorman
2023-10-12 13:19 ` Huang, Ying
2023-09-20 6:18 ` [PATCH 10/10] mm, pcp: reduce detecting time of consecutive high order page freeing Huang Ying
2023-09-20 16:41 ` [PATCH 00/10] mm: PCP high auto-tuning Andrew Morton
2023-09-21 13:32 ` Huang, Ying
2023-09-21 15:46 ` Andrew Morton
2023-09-22 0:33 ` Huang, Ying
2023-10-11 13:05 ` Mel Gorman
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