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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	nehagholkar@meta.com,  abhishekd@meta.com,  kernel-team@meta.com,
	david@redhat.com,  nphamcs@gmail.com,  akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org,  kbusch@meta.com
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 PATCH 0/5] Promotion of Unmapped Page Cache Folios.
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2024 10:16:42 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v7v5g99x.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z2g8xuCgqoqbpmtZ@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F> (Gregory Price's message of "Sun, 22 Dec 2024 11:22:30 -0500")

Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net> writes:

> On Sun, Dec 22, 2024 at 03:09:44PM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net> writes:
>> > That's 3-6% performance in this contrived case.
>> 
>> This is small too.
>>
>
> Small is relative.  3-6% performance increase across millions of servers
> across a year is a non trivial speedup for such a common operation.

If we cannot only get 3-6% performance increase in a micro-benchmark,
how much can we get from a real life workloads?

Anyway, we need to prove the usefulness of the change via data.  3-6%
isn't some strong data.

Can we measure the largest improvement?  For example, run the benchmark
with all file pages in DRAM and CXL.mem via numa binding, and compare.

>> > Can easily piggyback on that, just wasn't sure if overloading it was
>> > an acceptable idea.
>> 
>> It's the recommended setup in the original PMEM promotion
>> implementation.  Please check commit c959924b0dc5 ("memory tiering:
>> adjust hot threshold automatically").
>> 
>> > Although since that promotion rate limit is also
>> > per-task (as far as I know, will need to read into it a bit more) this
>> > is probably fine.
>> 
>> It's not per-task.  Please read the code, especially
>> should_numa_migrate_memory().
>
> Oh, then this is already throttled.  We call mpol_misplaced which calls
> should_numa_migrate_memory. 
>
> There's some duplication of candidate selection logic between
> promotion_candidate and should_numa_migrate_memory, but it may be
> beneficial to keep it that way.  I'll have to look.

---
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-27  2:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-10 21:37 Gregory Price
2024-12-10 21:37 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 1/5] migrate: Allow migrate_misplaced_folio_prepare() to accept a NULL VMA Gregory Price
2024-12-10 21:37 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 2/5] memory: move conditionally defined enums use inside ifdef tags Gregory Price
2024-12-27 10:34   ` Donet Tom
2024-12-27 15:42     ` Gregory Price
2024-12-29 14:49       ` Donet Tom
2024-12-10 21:37 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 3/5] memory: allow non-fault migration in numa_migrate_check path Gregory Price
2024-12-10 21:37 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 4/5] vmstat: add page-cache numa hints Gregory Price
2024-12-27 10:48   ` Donet Tom
2024-12-27 15:49     ` Gregory Price
2024-12-29 14:57       ` Donet Tom
2025-01-03 10:18   ` Donet Tom
2025-01-03 19:19     ` Gregory Price
2024-12-10 21:37 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 5/5] migrate,sysfs: add pagecache promotion Gregory Price
2024-12-27 11:01   ` Donet Tom
2024-12-27 15:56     ` Gregory Price
2024-12-29 15:00       ` Donet Tom
2024-12-21  5:18 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 0/5] Promotion of Unmapped Page Cache Folios Huang, Ying
2024-12-21 14:48   ` Gregory Price
2024-12-22  7:09     ` Huang, Ying
2024-12-22 16:22       ` Gregory Price
2024-12-27  2:16         ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2024-12-27 15:40           ` Gregory Price
2024-12-27 19:09             ` Gregory Price
2024-12-28  3:38               ` Gregory Price
2024-12-31  7:32                 ` Gregory Price
2025-01-02  2:58                   ` Huang, Ying

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