From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
<akpm@linux-foundation.org>, <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
<willy@infradead.org>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm: support large folio numa balancing
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 10:58:32 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sf57en8n.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f22001bb-e474-4ddb-8440-2668e6cec000@linux.alibaba.com> (Baolin Wang's message of "Tue, 14 Nov 2023 19:11:56 +0800")
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com> writes:
> On 11/14/2023 9:12 AM, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 13.11.23 11:45, Baolin Wang wrote:
>>>> Currently, the file pages already support large folio, and supporting for
>>>> anonymous pages is also under discussion[1]. Moreover, the numa balancing
>>>> code are converted to use a folio by previous thread[2], and the migrate_pages
>>>> function also already supports the large folio migration.
>>>> So now I did not see any reason to continue restricting NUMA
>>>> balancing for
>>>> large folio.
>>>
>>> I recall John wanted to look into that. CCing him.
>>>
>>> I'll note that the "head page mapcount" heuristic to detect sharers will
>>> now strike on the PTE path and make us believe that a large folios is
>>> exclusive, although it isn't.
>> Even 4k folio may be shared by multiple processes/threads. So, numa
>> balancing uses a multi-stage node selection algorithm (mostly
>> implemented in should_numa_migrate_memory()) to identify shared folios.
>> I think that the algorithm needs to be adjusted for PTE mapped large
>> folio for shared folios.
>
> Not sure I get you here. In should_numa_migrate_memory(), it will use
> last CPU id, last PID and group numa faults to determine if this page
> can be migrated to the target node. So for large folio, a precise
> folio sharers check can make the numa faults of a group more accurate,
> which is enough for should_numa_migrate_memory() to make a decision?
A large folio that is mapped by multiple process may be accessed by one
remote NUMA node, so we still want to migrate it. A large folio that is
mapped by one process but accessed by multiple threads on multiple NUMA
node may be not migrated.
> Could you provide a more detailed description of the algorithm you
> would like to change for large folio? Thanks.
I haven't thought about that thoroughly. So, please evaluate the
algorithm by yourself.
For example, the 2 sub-pages of a shared PTE-mapped large folio may be
accessed together by a task. This may cause the folio be migrated
wrongly. One possible solution is to restore all other PTE mappings of
the large folio in do_numa_page() as the first step. This resembles the
PMD-mapped THP behavior.
>> And, as a performance improvement patch, some performance data needs to
>
> Do you have some benchmark recommendation? I know the the autonuma can
> not support large folio now.
There are autonuma-benchmark, and specjbb is used by someone before.
>> be provided. And, the effect of shared folio detection needs to be
>> tested too
--
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-15 3:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-13 10:45 Baolin Wang
2023-11-13 10:53 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-13 12:10 ` Kefeng Wang
2023-11-13 13:01 ` Baolin Wang
2023-11-13 22:15 ` John Hubbard
2023-11-14 11:35 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-14 13:12 ` Kefeng Wang
2023-11-13 12:59 ` Baolin Wang
2023-11-13 14:49 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-14 10:53 ` Baolin Wang
2023-11-14 1:12 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-14 11:11 ` Baolin Wang
2023-11-15 2:58 ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2023-11-17 10:07 ` Mel Gorman
2023-11-17 10:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-17 16:04 ` Mel Gorman
2023-11-20 8:01 ` Baolin Wang
2023-11-15 10:46 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-15 10:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-20 3:28 ` Baolin Wang
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