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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	 Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org,  shuah@kernel.org,
	 linux-mm@kvack.org, chrisl@kernel.org,  hughd@google.com,
	 kaleshsingh@google.com, kasong@tencent.com,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	 Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>,
	Philip Li <philip.li@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] selftests/mm: Introduce a test program to assess swap entry allocation for thp_swapout
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 10:33:41 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sex710u2.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d0b20f47-384d-49f1-8449-0da6da11089c@redhat.com> (David Hildenbrand's message of "Thu, 20 Jun 2024 13:34:02 +0200")

David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:

> On 20.06.24 11:04, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>> On 20/06/2024 01:26, Barry Song wrote:
>>> From: Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>
>>>
>>> Both Ryan and Chris have been utilizing the small test program to aid
>>> in debugging and identifying issues with swap entry allocation. While
>>> a real or intricate workload might be more suitable for assessing the
>>> correctness and effectiveness of the swap allocation policy, a small
>>> test program presents a simpler means of understanding the problem and
>>> initially verifying the improvements being made.
>>>
>>> Let's endeavor to integrate it into the self-test suite. Although it
>>> presently only accommodates 64KB and 4KB, I'm optimistic that we can
>>> expand its capabilities to support multiple sizes and simulate more
>>> complex systems in the future as required.
>> I'll try to summarize the thread with Huang Ying by suggesting this
>> test program
>> is "neccessary but not sufficient" to exhaustively test the mTHP swap-out path.
>> I've certainly found it useful and think it would be a valuable addition to the
>> tree.
>> That said, I'm not convinced it is a selftest; IMO a selftest should
>> provide a
>> clear pass/fail result against some criteria and must be able to be run
>> automatically by (e.g.) a CI system.
>
> Likely we should then consider moving other such performance-related
> thingies out of the selftests?

I think that it's good to distinguish between functionality and
performance tests.  For example, 0-day test system will use virtual
machines to do some functionality tests to improve efficiency.  But it's
not good to run performance tests in such kind of virtual machines.

--
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying


  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-21  2:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-20  0:26 Barry Song
2024-06-20  1:53 ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-20  2:04   ` Barry Song
2024-06-20  5:20     ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-20  6:09       ` Barry Song
2024-06-20  6:34         ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-20  7:25           ` Barry Song
2024-06-20  7:59             ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-20  8:11               ` Barry Song
2024-06-20  8:26                 ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-20  9:07                   ` Barry Song
     [not found]   ` <3e185f8d-da63-4a61-9cd1-9804bd972515@redhat.com>
2024-06-20  7:24     ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-20  9:04 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-06-20 11:34   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-21  2:33     ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2024-06-21  7:25     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-06-21  7:47       ` Barry Song
2024-06-21  7:58         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-06-21  8:50         ` Chris Li
2024-06-21 11:20           ` Barry Song
2024-06-21  9:22         ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-21  9:43           ` Barry Song
2024-06-24  3:42             ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-24  4:05               ` Barry Song
2024-06-24  6:59                 ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-24  7:55                   ` Barry Song
2024-06-21  8:52       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-20 23:34 ` Chris Li
2024-06-21  7:34   ` Ryan Roberts

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