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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: "Yin, Fengwei" <fengwei.yin@intel.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	 "zhangpeng (AS)" <zhangpeng362@huawei.com>,
	 <linux-mm@kvack.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, <lstoakes@gmail.com>,
	 <hughd@google.com>,  <david@redhat.com>, <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	 <peterz@infradead.org>,  <mgorman@suse.de>, <mingo@redhat.com>,
	 <riel@redhat.com>,  <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	 Nanyong Sun <sunnanyong@huawei.com>,
	 Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [Question]: major faults are still triggered after mlockall when numa balancing
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2023 10:02:30 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r0kufm15.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2c95d0d0-a708-436f-a9d9-4b3d90eafb16@intel.com> (Fengwei Yin's message of "Fri, 10 Nov 2023 17:04:26 +0800")

"Yin, Fengwei" <fengwei.yin@intel.com> writes:

> On 11/10/2023 1:32 PM, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> writes:
>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 09:47:24PM +0800, zhangpeng (AS) wrote:
>>>> There is a stage in numa fault which will set pte as 0 in do_numa_page() :
>>>> ptep_modify_prot_start() will clear the vmf->pte, until
>>>> ptep_modify_prot_commit() assign a value to the vmf->pte.
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> Our problem scenario is as follows:
>>>>
>>>> task 1                      task 2
>>>> ------                      ------
>>>> /* scan global variables */
>>>> do_numa_page()
>>>>   spin_lock(vmf->ptl)
>>>>   ptep_modify_prot_start()
>>>>   /* set vmf->pte as null */
>>>>                             /* Access global variables */
>>>>                             handle_pte_fault()
>>>>                               /* no pte lock */
>>>>                               do_pte_missing()
>>>>                                 do_fault()
>>>>                                   do_read_fault()
>>>>   ptep_modify_prot_commit()
>>>>   /* ptep update done */
>>>>   pte_unmap_unlock(vmf->pte, vmf->ptl)
>>>>                                     do_fault_around()
>>>>                                     __do_fault()
>>>>                                       filemap_fault()
>>>>                                         /* page cache is not available
>>>>                                         and a major fault is triggered */
>>>>                                         do_sync_mmap_readahead()
>>>>                                         /* page_not_uptodate and goto
>>>>                                         out_retry. */
>>>>
>>>> Is there any way to avoid such a major fault?
>>>
>>> Yes, this looks like a bug.
>>>
>>> It seems to me that the easiest way to fix this is not to zero the pte
>>> but to make it protnone?  That would send task 2 into do_numa_page()
>>> where it would take the ptl, then check pte_same(), see that it's
>>> changed and goto out, which will end up retrying the fault.
>> 
>> There are other places in the kernel where the PTE is cleared, for
>> example, move_ptes() in mremap.c.  IIUC, we need to audit all them.
>> 
>> Another possible solution is to check PTE again with PTL held before
>> reading in file data.  This will increase the overhead of major fault
>> path.  Is it acceptable?
> What if we check the PTE without page table lock acquired?

The PTE is zeroed temporarily only with PTL held.  So, if we acquire the
PTL in filemap_fault() and check the PTE, the PTE which is zeroed in
do_numa_page() will be non-zero now.  So we can avoid the major fault.

But, if we don't acquire the PTL, the PTE may still be zero.

--
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying

> Regards
> Yin, Fengwei
>
>> 
>>> I'm not particularly expert at page table manipulation, so I'll let
>>> somebody who is propose an actual patch.  Or you could try to do it?
>> 
>> --
>> Best Regards,
>> Huang, Ying


  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-13  2:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-09 13:47 zhangpeng (AS)
2023-11-09 14:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-09 14:29   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-09 15:15     ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-11-09 17:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-10  5:32   ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-10  9:04     ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-11-13  2:02       ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2023-11-14 11:23         ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-11-15  1:46           ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-10  9:39   ` zhangpeng (AS)
2023-11-09 22:54 ` Yang Shi
2023-11-10  1:57   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-11-10  3:39     ` Kefeng Wang
2023-11-10  3:50       ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-11-10  4:00         ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2023-11-14  1:41     ` Yang Shi
2023-11-14 11:10       ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-11-09 23:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-10  5:04 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2023-11-10  8:36   ` zhangpeng (AS)
2023-11-10  8:17 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2023-11-10  9:50   ` zhangpeng (AS)

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