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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>
Cc: <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,  <david@redhat.com>,
	 <linux-mm@kvack.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] mm/swapfile: make security_vm_enough_memory_mm() work as expected
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 15:42:27 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pmj2ea3g.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <463fe0cd-504a-f887-0201-691bacd9e69d@huawei.com> (Miaohe Lin's message of "Tue, 21 Jun 2022 15:37:25 +0800")

Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com> writes:

> On 2022/6/21 9:35, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com> writes:
>> 
>>> On 2022/6/20 15:31, Huang, Ying wrote:
>>>> Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> security_vm_enough_memory_mm() checks whether a process has enough memory
>>>>> to allocate a new virtual mapping. And total_swap_pages is considered as
>>>>> available memory while swapoff tries to make sure there's enough memory
>>>>> that can hold the swapped out memory. But total_swap_pages contains the
>>>>> swap space that is being swapoff. So security_vm_enough_memory_mm() will
>>>>> success even if there's no memory to hold the swapped out memory because
>>>>> total_swap_pages always greater than or equal to p->pages.
>>>>
>>>> Per my understanding, swapoff will not allocate virtual mapping by
>>>> itself.  But after swapoff, the overcommit limit could be exceeded.
>>>> security_vm_enough_memory_mm() is used to check that.  For example, in a
>>>> system with 4GB memory and 8GB swap, and 10GB is in use,
>>>>
>>>> CommitLimit:    4+8 = 12GB
>>>> Committed_AS:   10GB
>>>>
>>>> security_vm_enough_memory_mm() in swapoff() will fail because
>>>> 10+8 = 18 > 12.  This is expected because after swapoff, the overcommit
>>>> limit will be exceeded.
>>>>
>>>> If 3GB is in use,
>>>>
>>>> CommitLimit:    4+8 = 12GB
>>>> Committed_AS:   3GB
>>>>
>>>> security_vm_enough_memory_mm() in swapoff() will succeed because
>>>> 3+8 = 11 < 12.  This is expected because after swapoff, the overcommit
>>>> limit will not be exceeded.
>>>
>>> In OVERCOMMIT_NEVER scene, I think you're right.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, what's the real problem of the original implementation?  Can you
>>>> show it with an example as above?
>>>
>>> In OVERCOMMIT_GUESS scene, in a system with 4GB memory and 8GB swap, and 10GB is in use,
>>> pages below is 8GB, totalram_pages() + total_swap_pages is 12GB, so swapoff() will succeed
>>> instead of expected failure because 8 < 12. The overcommit limit is always *ignored* in the
>>> below case.
>>>
>>> 	if (sysctl_overcommit_memory == OVERCOMMIT_GUESS) {
>>> 		if (pages > totalram_pages() + total_swap_pages)
>>> 			goto error;
>>> 		return 0;
>>> 	}
>>>
>>> Or am I miss something?
>> 
>> Per my understanding, with OVERCOMMIT_GUESS, the number of in-use pages
>> isn't checked at all.  The only restriction is that the size of the
>> virtual mapping created should be less than total RAM + total swap
>
> Do you mean the only restriction is that the size of the virtual mapping
> *created every time* should be less than total RAM + total swap pages but
> *total virtual mapping* is not limited in OVERCOMMIT_GUESS scene? If so,
> the current behavior should be sane and I will drop this patch.

Yes.  This is my understanding.

Best Regards,
Huang, Ying

> Thanks!
>
>> pages.  Because swapoff() will not create virtual mapping, so it's
>> expected that security_vm_enough_memory_mm() in swapoff() always
>> succeeds.
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> Huang, Ying
>> 
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> In order to fix it, p->pages should be retracted from total_swap_pages
>>>>> first and then check whether there's enough memory for inuse swap pages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>
>>>>
>>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>
>> 
>> .
>> 


  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-21  7:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-08 14:40 [PATCH v2 0/3] A few cleanup and fixup patches for swap Miaohe Lin
2022-06-08 14:40 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] mm/swapfile: make security_vm_enough_memory_mm() work as expected Miaohe Lin
2022-06-17  7:33   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-06-18  2:43     ` Miaohe Lin
2022-06-18  7:10       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-06-18  7:31         ` Miaohe Lin
2022-06-20  7:31   ` Huang, Ying
2022-06-20 12:12     ` Miaohe Lin
2022-06-21  1:35       ` Huang, Ying
2022-06-21  7:37         ` Miaohe Lin
2022-06-21  7:42           ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2022-06-21  8:20             ` Miaohe Lin
2022-06-08 14:40 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] mm/swapfile: fix possible data races of inuse_pages Miaohe Lin
2022-06-20  7:54   ` Huang, Ying
2022-06-20  9:04     ` Miaohe Lin
2022-06-20  9:23       ` Muchun Song
2022-06-20 12:23         ` Miaohe Lin
2022-06-20 12:32           ` Miaohe Lin
2022-06-20 13:46             ` Qian Cai
2022-06-20 14:20               ` Muchun Song
2022-06-20 21:36                 ` Qian Cai
2022-06-21  1:14                   ` Huang, Ying
2022-06-21  3:39                     ` Muchun Song
2022-06-21  6:40                       ` Miaohe Lin
2022-06-08 14:40 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] mm/swap: remove swap_cache_info statistics Miaohe Lin
2022-06-08 15:16   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-06-20  8:08   ` Huang, Ying
2022-06-20  9:05     ` Miaohe Lin
2022-06-20  9:30   ` Muchun Song
2022-06-17  2:37 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] A few cleanup and fixup patches for swap Andrew Morton
2022-06-17  3:00   ` Miaohe Lin

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