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From: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
To: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	"Tamir Duberstein" <tamird@gmail.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
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	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
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	"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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	"Daniel Gomez" <da.gomez@kernel.org>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 03/12] rust: xarray: add `contains_index` method
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2026 15:20:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pl5u1avm.fsf@t14s.mail-host-address-is-not-set> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aY7eMIhkPJ3wXD51@google.com>

Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com> writes:

> On Thu, Feb 12, 2026 at 01:39:48PM +0100, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
>> "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com> writes:
>> 
>> > On Thu, Feb 12, 2026 at 11:52 AM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> writes:
>> >>
>> >> > As far as I understand, this is a borrow checker limitation. It is easy
>> >> > for us to look at this code and decide that the borrow on line 51 will
>> >> > never alias with the borrow on line 49.
>> >>
>> >> I did a bit of googling, and this seems to be a well known issue with
>> >> the current implementation of lifetime analysis in the rust compiler.
>> >> Apparently this kind of code used to be OK [1] but the Rust devs decided
>> >> to remove the code that allowed this, because it was causing excessive
>> >> compilation times [2]. The upside is that this is solved by the new
>> >> lifetime analysis implementation called "Polonius" and it is the
>> >> intention to replace the existing implementation with Polonius at some
>> >> point [3].
>> >
>> > I believe the standard fix for this issue is to provide an entry api
>> > similar to HashMap::entry(). See the rbtree for an example, as it
>> > already provides such API.
>> 
>> The example above [1] is using the BTreeMap entry API to produce the
>> issue. Are the BTreeMap and HashMap entry APIs significantly different,
>> or is there something else I missed?
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Andreas Hindborg
>> 
>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/87y0kytggx.fsf@kernel.org
>
> Hrm, tricky. I think it would work if the entry type had an into_map() that
> consumes the entry and returns a &mut to the original map.
>
>   fn transaction_impl1<'a>(maps: &'a mut Maps, key: u32) -> &'a mut u32 {
>       match maps.a.entry(key) {
>           Entry::Occupied(o) => o.into_mut()
>           Entry::Vacant(v) => {
>               let map_a = v.into_map();
>               let value = map_a.first_entry().expect("Not empty").remove();
>               maps.b.entry(key).or_insert(value)
>           }
>       }
>   }

I see. In my use case, this line

  map_a.first_entry().expect("Not empty").remove();

is not open coded. Rather, it is in a function on `Maps`:

  impl<'a> Maps<'a> {
      fn foo(&mut self) -> u32 {
          self.a.first_entry().expect("Not empty").remove()
      }
  }

  fn transaction_impl1<'a>(maps: &'a mut Maps, key: u32) -> &'a mut u32 {
      match maps.a.entry(key) {
          Entry::Occupied(o) => o.into_mut(),
          Entry::Vacant(v) => {
              let value = maps.foo();
              maps.foo();
              maps.b.entry(key).or_insert(value)
          }
      }
  }

In the actual code, `Maps::foo` is not a small short function, which is
why I extracted it into a function.

I think I could make this work if I just put everything in one big
function, but that does not seem like the right solution.

Am I holding it wrong here, or is this just the way it is?

My `transaction_imp1` is `get_or_alloc_cache_page` [1] and my `foo` is
`extract_cache_page` [2] if you want to have a look.


Best regards,
Andreas Hindborg


[1] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/a.hindborg/linux.git/tree/drivers/block/rnull/disk_storage.rs?h=rnull-v6.19-rc5#n209
[2] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/a.hindborg/linux.git/tree/drivers/block/rnull/disk_storage.rs?h=rnull-v6.19-rc5#n148



  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-24 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-09 14:38 [PATCH v3 00/12] rust: xarray: add entry API with preloading Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 01/12] rust: xarray: minor formatting fixes Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 16:44   ` Daniel Gomez
2026-02-10 17:44   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-11 18:30   ` Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 02/12] rust: xarray: add debug format for `StoreError` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 16:45   ` Daniel Gomez
2026-02-10 16:55     ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-24 13:40       ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 17:44   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 03/12] rust: xarray: add `contains_index` method Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 16:46   ` Daniel Gomez
2026-02-24 13:45     ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 16:56   ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-11  7:31     ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-11 18:24       ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-10 17:52   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-11  7:41     ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-11 18:21       ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-12 10:15         ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-12 10:52           ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-12 11:19             ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-12 12:39               ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-12 17:49                 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-13  8:15                   ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-13  8:17                 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-24 14:20                   ` Andreas Hindborg [this message]
2026-02-12 11:27             ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-02-12 12:47               ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-12 13:34                 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 04/12] rust: xarray: add `XArrayState` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 16:48   ` Daniel Gomez
2026-02-11  7:42     ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 16:57   ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-24 14:26     ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-24 14:52       ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-24 15:43         ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-24 15:52           ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 05/12] rust: xarray: use `xas_load` instead of `xa_load` in `Guard::load` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 18:16   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-10 19:53     ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-10 20:59       ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-10 21:22         ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-10 21:34           ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 14:32             ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-11 18:00               ` Boqun Feng
2026-02-11 18:19                 ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-11 18:24                   ` Boqun Feng
2026-02-11 18:55                 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-11 19:45                   ` Boqun Feng
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 06/12] rust: xarray: simplify `Guard::load` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 07/12] rust: xarray: add `find_next` and `find_next_mut` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 08/12] rust: xarray: add entry API Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 09/12] rust: mm: add abstractions for allocating from a `sheaf` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 10/12] rust: mm: sheaf: allow use of C initialized static caches Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 11/12] xarray, radix-tree: enable sheaf support for kmem_cache Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 16:49   ` Daniel Gomez
2026-02-11  7:45     ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 12/12] rust: xarray: add preload API Andreas Hindborg

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