From: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
To: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
"Tamir Duberstein" <tamird@gmail.com>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
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"David Rientjes" <rientjes@google.com>,
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"Harry Yoo" <harry.yoo@oracle.com>,
"Daniel Gomez" <da.gomez@kernel.org>,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 03/12] rust: xarray: add `contains_index` method
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2026 15:20:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pl5u1avm.fsf@t14s.mail-host-address-is-not-set> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aY7eMIhkPJ3wXD51@google.com>
Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com> writes:
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2026 at 01:39:48PM +0100, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
>> "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com> writes:
>>
>> > On Thu, Feb 12, 2026 at 11:52 AM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> writes:
>> >>
>> >> > As far as I understand, this is a borrow checker limitation. It is easy
>> >> > for us to look at this code and decide that the borrow on line 51 will
>> >> > never alias with the borrow on line 49.
>> >>
>> >> I did a bit of googling, and this seems to be a well known issue with
>> >> the current implementation of lifetime analysis in the rust compiler.
>> >> Apparently this kind of code used to be OK [1] but the Rust devs decided
>> >> to remove the code that allowed this, because it was causing excessive
>> >> compilation times [2]. The upside is that this is solved by the new
>> >> lifetime analysis implementation called "Polonius" and it is the
>> >> intention to replace the existing implementation with Polonius at some
>> >> point [3].
>> >
>> > I believe the standard fix for this issue is to provide an entry api
>> > similar to HashMap::entry(). See the rbtree for an example, as it
>> > already provides such API.
>>
>> The example above [1] is using the BTreeMap entry API to produce the
>> issue. Are the BTreeMap and HashMap entry APIs significantly different,
>> or is there something else I missed?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Andreas Hindborg
>>
>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/87y0kytggx.fsf@kernel.org
>
> Hrm, tricky. I think it would work if the entry type had an into_map() that
> consumes the entry and returns a &mut to the original map.
>
> fn transaction_impl1<'a>(maps: &'a mut Maps, key: u32) -> &'a mut u32 {
> match maps.a.entry(key) {
> Entry::Occupied(o) => o.into_mut()
> Entry::Vacant(v) => {
> let map_a = v.into_map();
> let value = map_a.first_entry().expect("Not empty").remove();
> maps.b.entry(key).or_insert(value)
> }
> }
> }
I see. In my use case, this line
map_a.first_entry().expect("Not empty").remove();
is not open coded. Rather, it is in a function on `Maps`:
impl<'a> Maps<'a> {
fn foo(&mut self) -> u32 {
self.a.first_entry().expect("Not empty").remove()
}
}
fn transaction_impl1<'a>(maps: &'a mut Maps, key: u32) -> &'a mut u32 {
match maps.a.entry(key) {
Entry::Occupied(o) => o.into_mut(),
Entry::Vacant(v) => {
let value = maps.foo();
maps.foo();
maps.b.entry(key).or_insert(value)
}
}
}
In the actual code, `Maps::foo` is not a small short function, which is
why I extracted it into a function.
I think I could make this work if I just put everything in one big
function, but that does not seem like the right solution.
Am I holding it wrong here, or is this just the way it is?
My `transaction_imp1` is `get_or_alloc_cache_page` [1] and my `foo` is
`extract_cache_page` [2] if you want to have a look.
Best regards,
Andreas Hindborg
[1] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/a.hindborg/linux.git/tree/drivers/block/rnull/disk_storage.rs?h=rnull-v6.19-rc5#n209
[2] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/a.hindborg/linux.git/tree/drivers/block/rnull/disk_storage.rs?h=rnull-v6.19-rc5#n148
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-24 14:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-09 14:38 [PATCH v3 00/12] rust: xarray: add entry API with preloading Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 01/12] rust: xarray: minor formatting fixes Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 16:44 ` Daniel Gomez
2026-02-10 17:44 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-11 18:30 ` Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 02/12] rust: xarray: add debug format for `StoreError` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 16:45 ` Daniel Gomez
2026-02-10 16:55 ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-24 13:40 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 17:44 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 03/12] rust: xarray: add `contains_index` method Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 16:46 ` Daniel Gomez
2026-02-24 13:45 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 16:56 ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-11 7:31 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-11 18:24 ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-10 17:52 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-11 7:41 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-11 18:21 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-12 10:15 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-12 10:52 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-12 11:19 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-12 12:39 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-12 17:49 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-13 8:15 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-13 8:17 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-24 14:20 ` Andreas Hindborg [this message]
2026-02-12 11:27 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-02-12 12:47 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-12 13:34 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 04/12] rust: xarray: add `XArrayState` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 16:48 ` Daniel Gomez
2026-02-11 7:42 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 16:57 ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-24 14:26 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-24 14:52 ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-24 15:43 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-24 15:52 ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 05/12] rust: xarray: use `xas_load` instead of `xa_load` in `Guard::load` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 18:16 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-10 19:53 ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-10 20:59 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-10 21:22 ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-10 21:34 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 14:32 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-11 18:00 ` Boqun Feng
2026-02-11 18:19 ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-11 18:24 ` Boqun Feng
2026-02-11 18:55 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-11 19:45 ` Boqun Feng
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 06/12] rust: xarray: simplify `Guard::load` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 07/12] rust: xarray: add `find_next` and `find_next_mut` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 08/12] rust: xarray: add entry API Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 09/12] rust: mm: add abstractions for allocating from a `sheaf` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 10/12] rust: mm: sheaf: allow use of C initialized static caches Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 11/12] xarray, radix-tree: enable sheaf support for kmem_cache Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 16:49 ` Daniel Gomez
2026-02-11 7:45 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 12/12] rust: xarray: add preload API Andreas Hindborg
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