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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>,
	 Aneesh Kumar K V <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,  Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	 Zefan Li <lizefan.x@bytedance.com>,
	 Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	 "cgroups@vger.kernel.org" <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"Chen, Tim C" <tim.c.chen@intel.com>,
	 "Yin, Fengwei" <fengwei.yin@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/vmscan: respect cpuset policy during page demotion
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 15:39:00 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o7txk963.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y1ou5DGHrEsKnhri@dhcp22.suse.cz> (Michal Hocko's message of "Thu, 27 Oct 2022 09:10:28 +0200")

Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> writes:

> On Thu 27-10-22 14:47:22, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> writes:
> [...]
>> > I can imagine workloads which wouldn't like to get their memory demoted
>> > for some reason but wouldn't it be more practical to tell that
>> > explicitly (e.g. via prctl) rather than configuring cpusets/memory
>> > policies explicitly?
>> 
>> If my understanding were correct, prctl() configures the process or
>> thread.
>
> Not necessarily. There are properties which are per adddress space like
> PR_[GS]ET_THP_DISABLE. This could be very similar.
>
>> How can we get process/thread configuration at demotion time?
>
> As already pointed out in previous emails. You could hook into
> folio_check_references path, more specifically folio_referenced_one
> where you have all that you need already - all vmas mapping the page and
> then it is trivial to get the corresponding vm_mm. If at least one of
> them has the flag set then the demotion is not allowed (essentially the
> same model as VM_LOCKED).

Got it!  Thanks for detailed explanation.

One bit may be not sufficient.  For example, if we want to avoid or
control cross-socket demotion and still allow demoting to slow memory
nodes in local socket, we need to specify a node mask to exclude some
NUMA nodes from demotion targets.

From overhead point of view, this appears similar as that of VMA/task
memory policy?  We can make mm->owner available for memory tiers
(CONFIG_NUMA && CONFIG_MIGRATION).  The advantage is that we don't need
to introduce new ABI.  I guess users may prefer to use `numactl` than a
new ABI?

Best Regards,
Huang, Ying


  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-27  7:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-26  7:43 Feng Tang
2022-10-26  7:49 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-10-26  8:00   ` Feng Tang
2022-10-26  9:19     ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-26 10:42       ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-10-26 11:02         ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-26 12:08           ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-10-26 12:21             ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-26 12:35               ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-10-27  9:02                 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-27 10:16                   ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-10-27 13:05                     ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-26 12:20       ` Feng Tang
2022-10-26 15:59         ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-26 17:57           ` Yang Shi
2022-10-27  7:11             ` Feng Tang
2022-10-27  7:45               ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-27  7:51                 ` Feng Tang
2022-10-27 17:55               ` Yang Shi
2022-10-28  3:37                 ` Feng Tang
2022-10-28  5:54                   ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-28 17:23                     ` Yang Shi
2022-10-31  1:56                       ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-31  2:19                       ` Feng Tang
2022-10-28  5:09                 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-10-28 17:16                   ` Yang Shi
2022-10-31  1:53                     ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-27  6:47           ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-27  7:10             ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-27  7:39               ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2022-10-27  8:01                 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-27  9:31                   ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-27 12:29                     ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-27 23:22                       ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-31  8:40                         ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-31  8:51                           ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-31  9:18                             ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-31 14:09                           ` Feng Tang
2022-10-31 14:32                             ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-07  8:05                               ` Feng Tang
2022-11-07  8:17                                 ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-01  3:17                     ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-26  8:26 ` Yin, Fengwei
2022-10-26  8:37   ` Feng Tang
2022-10-26 14:36 ` Waiman Long
2022-10-27  5:57   ` Feng Tang
2022-10-27  5:13 ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-27  5:49   ` Feng Tang
2022-10-27  6:05     ` Huang, Ying

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