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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
Cc: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	"Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>, John Ogness <jogness@linutronix.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: Excessive TLB flush ranges
Date: Wed, 17 May 2023 13:58:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o7mj5fuz.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZGS53cXQEQ8wZ1ab@pc636>

On Wed, May 17 2023 at 13:26, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 07:04:34PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> The proposed flush_tlb_kernel_vas(list, num_pages) mechanism
>> achieves:
>> 
>>   1) It batches multiple ranges to _one_ invocation
>> 
>>   2) It lets the architecture decide based on the number of pages
>>      whether it does a tlb_flush_all() or a flush of individual ranges.
>> 
>> Whether the architecture uses IPIs or flushes only locally and the
>> hardware propagates that is completely irrelevant.
>> 
>> Right now any coalesced range, which is huge due to massive holes, takes
>> decision #2 away.
>> 
>> If you want to flush individual VAs from the core vmalloc code then you
>> lose #1, as the aggregated number of pages might justify a tlb_flush_all().
>> 
>> That's a pure architecture decision and all the core code needs to do is
>> to provide appropriate information and not some completely bogus request
>> to flush 17312759359 pages, i.e. a ~64.5 TB range, while in reality
>> there are exactly _three_ distinct pages to flush.
>> 
> 1.
>
> I think, all two cases(logic) should be moved into ARCH code, so a decision 
> is made _not_ by vmalloc code how to flush, either fully, if it supported or
> page by page that require list chasing.

Which is exactly what my patch does, no?

> 2.
> void vfree(const void *addr)
> {
> ...
> 	if (unlikely(vm->flags & VM_FLUSH_RESET_PERMS))
> 		vm_reset_perms(vm); <----
> ...
> }
>
> so, all purged areas are drained in a caller context, so it is blocked
> until the drain is done including flushing. I am not sure why it is done
> from a caller context.
>
> IMHO, it should be deferred same way as we do in:
>
> static void free_vmap_area_noflush(struct vmap_area *va)

How is that avoiding the problem? It just deferres it to some point in
the future. There is no guarantee that batching will be large enough to
justify a full flush.

> if do not miss the point why vfree() has to do it directly.

Keeping executable mappings around until some other flush happens is
obviously neither a brilliant idea nor correct.

Thanks

        tglx






  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-17 11:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-15 16:43 Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-15 16:59 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-15 19:46   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-15 21:11     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-15 21:31       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-16  6:37         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  6:46           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:18           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:20             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:27               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-16  9:03                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16 10:05                   ` Baoquan He
2023-05-16 14:21                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16 19:03                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17  9:38                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 10:52                           ` Baoquan He
2023-05-19 11:22                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 11:49                               ` Baoquan He
2023-05-19 14:13                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 12:01                         ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] mm/vmalloc.c: try to flush vmap_area one by one Baoquan He
2023-05-19 14:16                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 12:02                         ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] mm/vmalloc.c: Only flush VM_FLUSH_RESET_PERMS area immediately Baoquan He
2023-05-19 12:03                         ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] mm/vmalloc.c: change _vm_unmap_aliases() to do purge firstly Baoquan He
2023-05-19 14:17                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 18:38                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 23:46                             ` Baoquan He
2023-05-21 23:10                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-22 11:21                                 ` Baoquan He
2023-05-22 12:02                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-22 14:34                                     ` Baoquan He
2023-05-22 20:21                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-22 20:44                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-23  9:35                                         ` Baoquan He
2023-05-19 13:49                   ` Excessive TLB flush ranges Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:21             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-16  8:19           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-16  8:44             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:48               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-16 12:09                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16 13:42                   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-16 14:38                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16 15:01                       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-16 17:04                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 11:26                           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-17 11:58                             ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2023-05-17 12:15                               ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-17 16:32                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 10:01                                   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-19 14:56                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 15:14                                       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-19 16:32                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 17:02                                           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-16 17:56                       ` Nadav Amit
2023-05-16 19:32                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17  0:23                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17  1:23                             ` Nadav Amit
2023-05-17 10:31                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 11:47                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 22:41                                   ` Nadav Amit
2023-05-17 14:43                                 ` Mark Rutland
2023-05-17 16:41                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 22:57                                 ` Nadav Amit
2023-05-19 11:49                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 12:12                               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-17 23:14                                 ` Nadav Amit
2023-05-15 18:17 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-16  2:26   ` Baoquan He
2023-05-16  6:40     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:07       ` Baoquan He
2023-05-16  8:10         ` Baoquan He
2023-05-16  8:45         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-16  9:13           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:54         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  9:48           ` Baoquan He
2023-05-15 20:02 ` Nadav Amit

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