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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	davem@davemloft.net, kuba@kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com
Cc: zhangkun09@huawei.com, fanghaiqing@huawei.com,
	liuyonglong@huawei.com, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>,
	IOMMU <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team <kernel-team@cloudflare.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 3/3] page_pool: fix IOMMU crash when driver has already unbound
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2024 12:57:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o731by64.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1eac33ae-e8e1-4437-9403-57291ba4ced6@huawei.com>

Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com> writes:

>> But, well, I'm not sure it is? You seem to be taking it as axiomatic
>> that the wait in itself is bad. Why? It's just a bit memory being held
>> on to while it is still in use, and so what?
>
> Actually, I thought about adding some sort of timeout or kicking based on
> jakub's waiting patch too.
>
> But after looking at more caching in the networking, waiting and kicking/flushing
> seems harder than recording the inflight pages, mainly because kicking/flushing
> need very subsystem using page_pool owned page to provide a kicking/flushing
> mechanism for it to work, not to mention how much time does it take to do all
> the kicking/flushing.

Eliding the details above, but yeah, you're right, there are probably
some pernicious details to get right if we want to flush all caches. S
I wouldn't do that to start with. Instead, just add the waiting to start
with, then wait and see if this actually turns out to be a problem in
practice. And if it is, identify the source of that problem, deal with
it, rinse and repeat :)

-Toke



  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-30 11:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20241022032214.3915232-1-linyunsheng@huawei.com>
2024-10-22  3:22 ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-10-22 16:40   ` Simon Horman
2024-10-22 18:14   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-10-23  8:59     ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-10-24 14:40       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-10-25  3:20         ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-10-25 11:16           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-10-25 14:07             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-10-26  7:33               ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-11-06 13:25                 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-11-06 15:57                   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-11-06 19:55                     ` Alexander Duyck
2024-11-07 11:10                       ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-11-07 11:09                     ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-11-11 11:31                 ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-11-11 18:51                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-11-12 12:22                     ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-11-12 14:19                       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-11-13 12:21                         ` Yunsheng Lin
     [not found]                         ` <40c9b515-1284-4c49-bdce-c9eeff5092f9@huawei.com>
2024-11-18 15:11                           ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-10-26  7:32             ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-10-29 13:58               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-10-30 11:30                 ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-10-30 11:57                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2024-10-31 12:17                     ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-10-31 16:18                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-11-01 11:11                         ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-11-05 20:11                           ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-11-06 10:56                             ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-11-06 14:17                               ` Robin Murphy
2024-11-07  8:41                               ` Christoph Hellwig

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