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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	 Gregory Price <gourry.memverge@gmail.com>,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	 aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com, weixugc@google.com,
	 apopple@nvidia.com,  tim.c.chen@intel.com,
	dave.hansen@intel.com,  shy828301@gmail.com,
	 gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, rafael@kernel.org,
	 Gregory Price <gregory.price@memverge.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 0/4] Node Weights and Weighted Interleave
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2023 15:10:37 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87jzqzz502.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fe7ns7dvrhwp6o7fnn53wt7tuidsncjctgav4bdirwfmjxarne@3oyfe22mxc35> (Michal Hocko's message of "Thu, 2 Nov 2023 10:28:11 +0100")

Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> writes:

> On Thu 02-11-23 14:11:09, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> writes:
>> 
>> > On Wed 01-11-23 10:21:47, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> >> Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> writes:
>> > [...]
>> >> > Well, I am not convinced about that TBH. Sure it is probably a good fit
>> >> > for this specific CXL usecase but it just doesn't fit into many others I
>> >> > can think of - e.g. proportional use of those tiers based on the
>> >> > workload - you get what you pay for.
>> >> 
>> >> For "pay", per my understanding, we need some cgroup based
>> >> per-memory-tier (or per-node) usage limit.  The following patchset is
>> >> the first step for that.
>> >> 
>> >> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/cover.1655242024.git.tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com/
>> >
>> > Why do we need a sysfs interface if there are plans for cgroup API?
>> 
>> They are for different target.  The cgroup API proposed here is to
>> constrain the DRAM usage in a system with DRAM and CXL memory.  The less
>> you pay, the less DRAM and more CXL memory you use.
>
> Right, but why the usage distribution requires its own interface and
> cannot be combined with the access control part of it?

Per my understanding, they are orthogonal.

Weighted-interleave is a memory allocation policy, other memory
allocation policies include local first, etc.

Usage limit is to constrain the usage of specific memory types
(e.g. DRAM) for a cgroup.  It can be used together with local first
policy and some other memory allocation policy.

--
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying


  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-03  7:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-31  0:38 Gregory Price
2023-10-31  0:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/4] base/node.c: initialize the accessor list before registering Gregory Price
2023-10-31  0:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/4] node: add accessors to sysfs when nodes are created Gregory Price
2023-10-31  0:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/4] node: add interleave weights to node accessor Gregory Price
2023-10-31  0:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/4] mm/mempolicy: modify interleave mempolicy to use node weights Gregory Price
2023-10-31 17:52   ` [EXT] " Srinivasulu Thanneeru
2023-10-31 18:23   ` Srinivasulu Thanneeru
2023-10-31  9:53 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/4] Node Weights and Weighted Interleave Michal Hocko
2023-10-31 15:21   ` Johannes Weiner
2023-10-31 15:56     ` Michal Hocko
2023-10-31  4:27       ` Gregory Price
2023-11-01 13:45         ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-01 16:58           ` Gregory Price
2023-11-02  9:47             ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-02  3:18               ` Gregory Price
2023-11-03  7:45                 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-03 14:16                   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-11-06  3:20                     ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-03  9:56                 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-02 18:21                   ` Gregory Price
2023-11-03 16:59                     ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-02  2:01         ` Huang, Ying
2023-10-31 16:22       ` Johannes Weiner
2023-10-31  4:29         ` Gregory Price
2023-11-01  2:34         ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-01  9:29           ` Ravi Jonnalagadda
2023-11-02  6:41             ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-02  9:35               ` Ravi Jonnalagadda
2023-11-02 14:13                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-11-03  7:00                 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-01 13:56         ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-02  6:21           ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-02  9:30             ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-01  2:21       ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-01 14:01         ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-02  6:11           ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-02  9:28             ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-03  7:10               ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2023-11-03  9:39                 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-06  5:08                   ` Huang, Ying

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