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From: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
To: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
Cc: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, x86@kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, bp@alien8.de,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, hpa@zytor.com, mingo@redhat.com,
	mjguzik@gmail.com, luto@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, willy@infradead.org, raghavendra.kt@amd.com,
	chleroy@kernel.org, ioworker0@gmail.com,
	boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, konrad.wilk@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 8/8] mm: folio_zero_user: cache neighbouring pages
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2025 13:23:45 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87jyyjv5zy.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874ipnwlky.fsf@oracle.com>


Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com> writes:

> David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) <david@kernel.org> writes:
>
>> On 12/15/25 21:49, Ankur Arora wrote:
>>> folio_zero_user() does straight zeroing without caring about
>>> temporal locality for caches.
>>> This replaced commit c6ddfb6c5890 ("mm, clear_huge_page: move order
>>> algorithm into a separate function") where we cleared a page at a
>>> time converging to the faulting page from the left and the right.
>>> To retain limited temporal locality, split the clearing in three
>>> parts: the faulting page and its immediate neighbourhood, and, the
>>> remaining regions on the left and the right. The local neighbourhood
>>> will be cleared last.
>>> Do this only when zeroing small folios (< MAX_ORDER_NR_PAGES) since
>>> there isn't much expectation of cache locality for large folios.
>>> Performance
>>> ===
>>> AMD Genoa (EPYC 9J14, cpus=2 sockets * 96 cores * 2 threads,
>>>    memory=2.2 TB, L1d= 16K/thread, L2=512K/thread, L3=2MB/thread)
>>> anon-w-seq (vm-scalability):
>>>                              stime                  utime
>>>    page-at-a-time      1654.63 ( +- 3.84% )     811.00 ( +- 3.84% )
>>>    contiguous clearing 1602.86 ( +- 3.00% )     970.75 ( +- 4.68% )
>>>    neighbourhood-last  1630.32 ( +- 2.73% )     886.37 ( +- 5.19% )
>>> Both stime and utime respond in expected ways. stime drops for both
>>> contiguous clearing (-3.14%) and neighbourhood-last (-1.46%)
>>> approaches. However, utime increases for both contiguous clearing
>>> (+19.7%) and neighbourhood-last (+9.28%).
>>> In part this is because anon-w-seq runs with 384 processes zeroing
>>> anonymously mapped memory which they then access sequentially. As
>>> such this is likely an uncommon pattern where the memory bandwidth
>>> is saturated while also being cache limited because we access the
>>> entire region.
>>> Kernel make workload (make -j 12 bzImage):
>>>                              stime                  utime
>>>    page-at-a-time       138.16 ( +- 0.31% )    1015.11 ( +- 0.05% )
>>>    contiguous clearing  133.42 ( +- 0.90% )    1013.49 ( +- 0.05% )
>>>    neighbourhood-last   131.20 ( +- 0.76% )    1011.36 ( +- 0.07% )
>>> For make the utime stays relatively flat with an up to 4.9% improvement
>>> in the stime.
>>
>> Nice evaluation!
>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
>>> Reviewed-by: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@amd.com>
>>> Tested-by: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@amd.com>
>>> ---
>>>   mm/memory.c | 44 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
>>>   1 file changed, 42 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
>>> index 974c48db6089..d22348b95227 100644
>>> --- a/mm/memory.c
>>> +++ b/mm/memory.c
>>> @@ -7268,13 +7268,53 @@ static void clear_contig_highpages(struct page *page, unsigned long addr,
>>>    * @addr_hint: The address accessed by the user or the base address.
>>>    *
>>>    * Uses architectural support to clear page ranges.
>>> + *
>>> + * Clearing of small folios (< MAX_ORDER_NR_PAGES) is split in three parts:
>>> + * pages in the immediate locality of the faulting page, and its left, right
>>> + * regions; the local neighbourhood is cleared last in order to keep cache
>>> + * lines of the faulting region hot.
>>> + *
>>> + * For larger folios we assume that there is no expectation of cache locality
>>> + * and just do a straight zero.
>>
>> Just wondering: why not do the same thing here as well? Probably shouldn't hurt
>> and would get rid of some code?
>
> That's a good point. With only a three way split, there's no reason to
> treat large folios specially.

A bit more on this: this change makes sense but I'll retain the current
split between patches-7, 8.

Where patch-7, is used to justify using contiguous clearing (and the
choice of value for PROCESS_PAGES_NON_PREEMPT_BATCH), unit based on
preemption model etc and patch-8, for the neighbourhood optimization.

>>>    */
>>>   void folio_zero_user(struct folio *folio, unsigned long addr_hint)
>>>   {
>>>   	unsigned long base_addr = ALIGN_DOWN(addr_hint, folio_size(folio));
>>
>> While at it you could turn that const as well.
>
> Ack.
>
>>> +	const long fault_idx = (addr_hint - base_addr) / PAGE_SIZE;
>>> +	const struct range pg = DEFINE_RANGE(0, folio_nr_pages(folio) - 1);
>>> +	const int width = 2; /* number of pages cleared last on either side */
>>
>> Is "width" really the right terminology? (the way you describe it, it's more
>> like diameter?)
>
> I like diameter. Will make that a define.

I'll make that radius since that's how I'm using it.

Thanks
Ankur

>> Wondering whether we should turn that into a define to make it clearer that we
>> are dealing with a magic value.
>>
>> Speaking of magic values, why 2 and not 3? :)
>
> I think I had tried both :). The performance was pretty much the same.
>
> But also, this is probably a function of the benchmark used. And I'm
> not sure I have a good one (unless kernel build with THP counts which
> isn't very responsive).
>
>>> +	struct range r[3];
>>> +	int i;
>>>   -	clear_contig_highpages(folio_page(folio, 0),
>>> -				base_addr, folio_nr_pages(folio));
>>> +	if (folio_nr_pages(folio) > MAX_ORDER_NR_PAGES) {
>>> +		clear_contig_highpages(folio_page(folio, 0),
>>> +				       base_addr, folio_nr_pages(folio));
>>> +		return;
>>> +	}
>>> +
>>> +	/*
>>> +	 * Faulting page and its immediate neighbourhood. Cleared at the end to
>>> +	 * ensure it sticks around in the cache.
>>> +	 */
>>> +	r[2] = DEFINE_RANGE(clamp_t(s64, fault_idx - width, pg.start, pg.end),
>>> +			    clamp_t(s64, fault_idx + width, pg.start, pg.end));
>>> +
>>> +	/* Region to the left of the fault */
>>> +	r[1] = DEFINE_RANGE(pg.start,
>>> +			    clamp_t(s64, r[2].start-1, pg.start-1, r[2].start));
>>
>> "start-1" -> "start - 1" etc.
>>
>>> +
>>> +	/* Region to the right of the fault: always valid for the common fault_idx=0 case. */
>>> +	r[0] = DEFINE_RANGE(clamp_t(s64, r[2].end+1, r[2].end, pg.end+1),
>>> +			    pg.end);
>>
>> Same here.
>>
>>> +
>>> +	for (i = 0; i <= 2; i++) {
>>
>> Can we use ARRAY_SIZE instead of "2" ?
>
> Ack to all of the these.
>
>>> +		unsigned int npages = range_len(&r[i]);
>>> +		struct page *page = folio_page(folio, r[i].start);
>>> +		unsigned long addr = base_addr + folio_page_idx(folio, page) * PAGE_SIZE;
>>
>> Can't you compute that from r[i].start) instead? The folio_page_idx() seems
>> avoidable unless I am missing something.
>>
>> Could make npages and addr const.
>>
>> const unsigned long addr = base_addr + r[i].start * PAGE_SIZE;
>> const unsigned int npages = range_len(&r[i]);
>> struct page *page = folio_page(folio, r[i].start);
>
> Thanks. Yeah, all of this makes sense.
>
> Will fix.
>
>>> +
>>> +		if (npages > 0)
>>> +			clear_contig_highpages(page, addr, npages);
>>> +	}
>>>   }
>>>     static int copy_user_gigantic_page(struct folio *dst, struct folio *src,
>
> Thanks for the review!

--
ankur


  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-18 21:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-15 20:49 [PATCH v10 0/8] mm: folio_zero_user: clear contiguous pages Ankur Arora
2025-12-15 20:49 ` [PATCH v10 1/8] treewide: provide a generic clear_user_page() variant Ankur Arora
2025-12-18  7:11   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-18 19:31     ` Ankur Arora
2025-12-15 20:49 ` [PATCH v10 2/8] highmem: introduce clear_user_highpages() Ankur Arora
2025-12-15 20:49 ` [PATCH v10 3/8] mm: introduce clear_pages() and clear_user_pages() Ankur Arora
2025-12-15 20:49 ` [PATCH v10 4/8] highmem: do range clearing in clear_user_highpages() Ankur Arora
2025-12-18  7:15   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-18 20:01     ` Ankur Arora
2025-12-15 20:49 ` [PATCH v10 5/8] x86/mm: Simplify clear_page_* Ankur Arora
2025-12-15 20:49 ` [PATCH v10 6/8] x86/clear_page: Introduce clear_pages() Ankur Arora
2025-12-18  7:22   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-15 20:49 ` [PATCH v10 7/8] mm, folio_zero_user: support clearing page ranges Ankur Arora
2025-12-16  2:44   ` Andrew Morton
2025-12-16  6:49     ` Ankur Arora
2025-12-16 15:12       ` Andrew Morton
2025-12-17  8:48         ` Ankur Arora
2025-12-17 18:54           ` Andrew Morton
2025-12-17 19:51             ` Ankur Arora
2025-12-17 20:26               ` Andrew Morton
2025-12-18  0:51                 ` Ankur Arora
2025-12-18  7:36   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-18 20:16     ` Ankur Arora
2025-12-15 20:49 ` [PATCH v10 8/8] mm: folio_zero_user: cache neighbouring pages Ankur Arora
2025-12-18  7:49   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-18 21:01     ` Ankur Arora
2025-12-18 21:23       ` Ankur Arora [this message]
2025-12-23 10:11         ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-16  2:48 ` [PATCH v10 0/8] mm: folio_zero_user: clear contiguous pages Andrew Morton
2025-12-16  5:04   ` Ankur Arora
2025-12-18  7:38     ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)

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