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From: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Walleij <linusw@kernel.org>, Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>,
	Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fork: zero vmap stack using clear_pages() instead of memset()
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2026 23:53:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87jyw146ac.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10fb20fc-b379-433d-9a08-cc962ab70480@kernel.org>


David Hildenbrand (Arm) <david@kernel.org> writes:

> On 2/24/26 14:53, Linus Walleij wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 24, 2026 at 2:21 PM David Hildenbrand (Arm)
>> <david@kernel.org> wrote:
>>> On 2/24/26 11:26, Linus Walleij wrote:
>>
>>>> After the introduction of clear_pages() we exploit the
>>>> fact that the process vm_area is allocated in contiguous
>>>> pages to just clear them all in one swift operation.
>>>
>>> The pages are virtually contiguous (vmalloc IIUC), not necessarily
>>> physically contiguous. For clear_pages() that should work.
>>
>> Yeah that's what I meant with contiguous, sorry.
>>
>>>>               /* Clear stale pointers from reused stack. */
>>>> -             memset(stack, 0, THREAD_SIZE);
>>>> +             clear_pages(vm_area->addr, vm_area->nr_pages);
>>>
>>> LGTM.
>>>
>>> Do we have any idea about performance impact etc?
>>
>> I have a pending patch for implementing clear_pages() for arm64,
>> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/linusw/linux-integrator.git/log/?h=b4/aarch64-clear-pages
>> which is in a performance test loop, once I get baseline data from that
>> I can test something fork-intensive (hackbench, I guess) with this patch on top.
>>
>> So making that patch made me remember this one code site...
>
> I'll note that clear_pages() documents: "When running under preemptible
> models this is not a problem. Under cooperatively scheduled models,
> however, the caller is expected to limit @npages to no more than
> PROCESS_PAGES_NON_PREEMPT_BATCH."
>
> We discussed during review that we should probably move that batching
> logic into clear_pages() at some point.

Yeah. However, clear_pages() can be architecturally overriden.

I don't see any use for a non-batched implementation. So, maybe
the arch version should become __clear_pages() and clear_pages()
can always do the appropriate batching.

--
ankur


      reply	other threads:[~2026-02-25  7:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-24 10:26 Linus Walleij
2026-02-24 13:21 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-24 13:53   ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-24 14:26     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-25  7:53       ` Ankur Arora [this message]

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