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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Kan Liang <kan.liang@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] sched/wait: Break up long wake list walk
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 18:22:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87inhnrtbi.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFxbo-4M8=3BZ_VbqvRTq6_Lbw6eUQz2tTh7ve5YhLdecw@mail.gmail.com> (Linus Torvalds's message of "Tue, 15 Aug 2017 16:50:34 -0700")

Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:

> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>>
>> Oh, and the page wait-queue really needs that key argument too, which
>> is another thing that swait queue code got rid of in the name of
>> simplicity.
>
> Actually, it gets worse.
>
> Because the page wait queues are hashed, it's not an all-or-nothing
> thing even for the non-exclusive cases, and it's not a "wake up first
> entry" for the exclusive case. Both have to be conditional on the wait
> entry actually matching the page and bit in question.
>
> So no way to use swait, or any of the lockless queuing code in general
> (so we can't do some clever private wait-list using llist.h either).
>
> End result: it looks like you fairly fundamentally do need to use a
> lock over the whole list traversal (like the standard wait-queues),
> and then add a cursor entry like Tim's patch if dropping the lock in
> the middle.
>
> Anyway, looking at the old code, we *used* to limit the page wait hash
> table to 4k entries, and we used to have one hash table per memory
> zone.
>
> The per-zone thing didn't work at all for the generic bit-waitqueues,
> because of how people used them on virtual addresses on the stack.
>
> But it *could* work for the page waitqueues, which are now a totally
> separate entity, and is obviously always physically addressed (since
> the indexing is by "struct page" pointer), and doesn't have that
> issue.
>
> So I guess we could re-introduce the notion of per-zone page waitqueue
> hash tables. It was disgusting to allocate and free though (and hooked
> into the memory hotplug code).
>
> So I'd still hope that we can instead just have one larger hash table,
> and that is sufficient for the problem.

If increasing the hash table size fixes the problem I am wondering if
rhash tables might be the proper solution to this problem.  They start
out small and then grow as needed.

Eric

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-16 23:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-15  0:52 Tim Chen
2017-08-15  0:52 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/wait: Introduce lock breaker in wake_up_page_bit Tim Chen
2017-08-15  1:48 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/wait: Break up long wake list walk Linus Torvalds
2017-08-15  2:27   ` Andi Kleen
2017-08-15  2:52     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-15  3:15       ` Andi Kleen
2017-08-15  3:28         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-15 19:05           ` Tim Chen
2017-08-15 19:41             ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-15 19:47               ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-15 22:47           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2017-08-15 22:56             ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-15 22:57               ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-15 23:50                 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-16 23:22                   ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2017-08-17 16:17   ` Liang, Kan
2017-08-17 16:25     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-17 20:18       ` Liang, Kan
2017-08-17 20:44         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-18 12:23           ` Mel Gorman
2017-08-18 14:20             ` Liang, Kan
2017-08-18 14:46               ` Mel Gorman
2017-08-18 16:36                 ` Tim Chen
2017-08-18 16:45                   ` Andi Kleen
2017-08-18 16:53                 ` Liang, Kan
2017-08-18 17:48                   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-18 18:54                     ` Mel Gorman
2017-08-18 19:14                       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-18 19:58                         ` Andi Kleen
2017-08-18 20:10                           ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-21 18:32                         ` Mel Gorman
2017-08-21 18:56                           ` Liang, Kan
2017-08-22 17:23                             ` Liang, Kan
2017-08-22 18:19                               ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-22 18:25                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-22 18:56                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-22 19:15                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-22 19:08                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-22 19:30                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-22 19:37                                     ` Andi Kleen
2017-08-22 21:08                                       ` Christopher Lameter
2017-08-22 21:24                                         ` Andi Kleen
2017-08-22 22:52                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-22 23:19                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-23 14:51                                             ` Liang, Kan
2017-08-22 19:55                                 ` Liang, Kan
2017-08-22 20:42                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-22 20:53                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-22 20:58                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-23 14:49                                     ` Liang, Kan
2017-08-23 15:58                                       ` Tim Chen
2017-08-23 18:17                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-23 20:55                                           ` Liang, Kan
2017-08-23 23:30                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-24 17:49                                             ` Tim Chen
2017-08-24 18:16                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-24 20:44                                                 ` Mel Gorman
2017-08-25 16:44                                                   ` Tim Chen
2017-08-23 16:04                                 ` Mel Gorman
2017-08-18 20:05                     ` Andi Kleen
2017-08-18 20:29                       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-18 20:29                     ` Liang, Kan
2017-08-18 20:34                       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-18 16:55             ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-18 13:06           ` Liang, Kan

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