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Fri, 28 May 2021 08:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by alrua-x1.borgediget.toke.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 86A4A180720; Fri, 28 May 2021 17:42:47 +0200 (CEST) From: Toke =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= To: Matthew Wilcox , James Bottomley Cc: Greg KH , Christoph Lameter , Theodore Ts'o , Jiri Kosina , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Maintainers / Kernel Summit 2021 planning kick-off In-Reply-To: References: X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 17:42:47 +0200 Message-ID: <87im32g8zs.fsf@toke.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 890AC2000BEA Authentication-Results: imf18.hostedemail.com; dkim=pass header.d=redhat.com header.s=mimecast20190719 header.b=fNck41KM; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=redhat.com; spf=none (imf18.hostedemail.com: domain of toke@redhat.com has no SPF policy when checking 216.205.24.124) smtp.mailfrom=toke@redhat.com X-Rspamd-Server: rspam03 X-Stat-Signature: ciaei1qbehu3qr6kh4gnkexrzt7ki8ye X-HE-Tag: 1622216564-40557 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: Matthew Wilcox writes: > On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 07:58:10AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote: >> On Thu, 2021-05-27 at 15:29 +0200, Greg KH wrote: >> > On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 03:23:03PM +0200, Christoph Lameter wrote: >> > > On Fri, 30 Apr 2021, Theodore Ts'o wrote: >> > > >> > > > I know we're all really hungry for some in-person meetups and >> > > > discussions, but at least for LPC, Kernel Summit, and >> > > > Maintainer's Summit, we're going to have to wait for another >> > > > year, >> > > >> > > Well now that we are vaccinated: Can we still change it? >> > > >> > >> > Speak for yourself, remember that Europe and other parts of the world >> > are not as "flush" with vaccines as the US currently is :( >> >> The rollout is accelerating in Europe. At least in Germany, I know >> people younger than me are already vaccinated. I think by the end of >> September the situation will be better ... especially if the EU and US >> agree on this air bridge (and the US actually agrees to let EU people >> in). >> >> One of the things Plumbers is thinking of is having a meetup at what >> was OSS EU but which is now in Seattle. The Maintainer's summit could >> do the same thing. We couldn't actually hold Plumbers in Seattle >> because the hotels still had masks and distancing requirements for >> events that effectively precluded the collaborative aspects of >> microconferences, but evening events will be governed by local >> protocols, rather than the Hotel, which are already more relaxed. > > Umm. Let's remember that the vaccines are 33-93% effective [1], > which means that there's approximately a 100% certainty that at least > one person arriving at the event from a trans-atlantic flight has been > exposed to someone who has the virus. I'm not convinced that holding a > "more relaxed protocol" event is a great idea. Not to mention the fact that this would exclude everyone from parts of the world that do not have a high vaccine coverage or a cosy "air bridge" type relationship with the US (whatever that means); aren't we supposed to be an international community? :/ -Toke