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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
Cc: Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,  <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	 Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	 Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/6] mm/migrate_pages: split unmap_and_move() to _unmap() and _move()
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 09:51:21 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ill937qe.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fsgdllmb.fsf@nvdebian.thelocal> (Alistair Popple's message of "Tue, 27 Sep 2022 10:02:33 +1000")

Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com> writes:

> Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 2:37 AM Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> writes:
>>>
>>> > This is a preparation patch to batch the page unmapping and moving
>>> > for the normal pages and THP.
>>> >
>>> > In this patch, unmap_and_move() is split to migrate_page_unmap() and
>>> > migrate_page_move().  So, we can batch _unmap() and _move() in
>>> > different loops later.  To pass some information between unmap and
>>> > move, the original unused newpage->mapping and newpage->private are
>>> > used.
>>>
>>> This looks like it could cause a deadlock between two threads migrating
>>> the same pages if force == true && mode != MIGRATE_ASYNC as
>>> migrate_page_unmap() will call lock_page() while holding the lock on
>>> other pages in the list. Therefore the two threads could deadlock if the
>>> pages are in a different order.
>>
>> It seems unlikely to me since the page has to be isolated from lru
>> before migration. The isolating from lru is atomic, so the two threads
>> unlikely see the same pages on both lists.
>
> Oh thanks! That is a good point and I agree since lru isolation is
> atomic the two threads won't see the same pages. migrate_vma_setup()
> does LRU isolation after locking the page which is why the potential
> exists there. We could potentially switch that around but given
> ZONE_DEVICE pages aren't on an lru it wouldn't help much.
>
>> But there might be other cases which may incur deadlock, for example,
>> filesystem writeback IIUC. Some filesystems may lock a bunch of pages
>> then write them back in a batch. The same pages may be on the
>> migration list and they are also dirty and seen by writeback. I'm not
>> sure whether I miss something that could prevent such a deadlock from
>> happening.
>
> I'm not overly familiar with that area but I would assume any filesystem
> code doing this would already have to deal with deadlock potential.

Thank you very much for pointing this out.  I think the deadlock is a
real issue.  Anyway, we shouldn't forbid other places in kernel to lock
2 pages at the same time.

The simplest solution is to batch page migration only if mode ==
MIGRATE_ASYNC.  Then we may consider to fall back to non-batch mode if
mode != MIGRATE_ASYNC and trylock page fails.

Best Regards,
Huang, Ying

[snip]


  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-27  1:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-21  6:06 [RFC 0/6] migrate_pages(): batch TLB flushing Huang Ying
2022-09-21  6:06 ` [RFC 1/6] mm/migrate_pages: separate huge page and normal pages migration Huang Ying
2022-09-21 15:55   ` Zi Yan
2022-09-22  1:14     ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-22  6:03   ` Baolin Wang
2022-09-22  6:22     ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-21  6:06 ` [RFC 2/6] mm/migrate_pages: split unmap_and_move() to _unmap() and _move() Huang Ying
2022-09-21 16:08   ` Zi Yan
2022-09-22  1:15     ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-22  6:36   ` Baolin Wang
2022-09-26  9:28   ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-26 18:06     ` Yang Shi
2022-09-27  0:02       ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-27  1:51         ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2022-09-27 20:34           ` John Hubbard
2022-09-27 20:57             ` Yang Shi
2022-09-28  0:59               ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-28  1:41                 ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-28  1:44                   ` John Hubbard
2022-09-28  1:49                     ` Yang Shi
2022-09-28  1:56                       ` John Hubbard
2022-09-28  2:14                         ` Yang Shi
2022-09-28  2:57                           ` John Hubbard
2022-09-28  3:25                             ` Yang Shi
2022-09-28  3:39                               ` Yang Shi
2022-09-27 20:56           ` Yang Shi
2022-09-27 20:54         ` Yang Shi
2022-09-21  6:06 ` [RFC 3/6] mm/migrate_pages: restrict number of pages to migrate in batch Huang Ying
2022-09-21 16:10   ` Zi Yan
2022-09-21 16:15     ` Zi Yan
2022-09-22  1:15     ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-21  6:06 ` [RFC 4/6] mm/migrate_pages: batch _unmap and _move Huang Ying
2022-09-21  6:06 ` [RFC 5/6] mm/migrate_pages: share more code between " Huang Ying
2022-09-21  6:06 ` [RFC 6/6] mm/migrate_pages: batch flushing TLB Huang Ying
2022-09-21 15:47 ` [RFC 0/6] migrate_pages(): batch TLB flushing Zi Yan
2022-09-22  1:45   ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-22  3:47   ` haoxin
2022-09-22  4:36     ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-22 12:50 ` Bharata B Rao
2022-09-23  7:52   ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-27 10:46     ` Bharata B Rao
2022-09-28  1:46       ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-26  9:11 ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-27 11:21 ` haoxin
2022-09-28  2:01   ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-28  3:33     ` haoxin
2022-09-28  4:53       ` Huang, Ying
2022-11-01 14:49   ` Hesham Almatary
2022-11-02  3:14     ` Huang, Ying
2022-11-02 14:13       ` Hesham Almatary

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