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From: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
To: Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@loongson.cn>
Cc: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	chenhuacai@kernel.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] kthread: Unify kernel_thread() and user_mode_thread()
Date: Wed, 10 May 2023 10:44:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ild0w5qs.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230509104127.1997562-1-chenhuacai@loongson.cn> (Huacai Chen's message of "Tue, 9 May 2023 18:41:27 +0800")

Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@loongson.cn> writes:

> Commit 343f4c49f2438d8 ("kthread: Don't allocate kthread_struct for init
> and umh") introduces a new function user_mode_thread() for init and umh.
> But the name is a bit confusing because init and umh are indeed kernel
> threads at creation time, the real difference is "they will become user
> processes".

No they are not "kernel threads" at creation time.  At creation time
init and umh are threads running in the kernel.

It is a very important distinction and you are loosing it.

Because they don't have a kthread_struct such tasks in the kernel
are not allowed to depend on anything that is ``kthread''.

Having this a separate function highlights the distinction.
Highlighting should hopefully cause people to ask why there is a
distinction, and what is going on.

> So let's unify the kernel_thread() and user_mode_thread() to
> kernel_thread() again, and add a new 'user' parameter for init and
> umh

Now that is confusing.

Eric


  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-10 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-09 10:41 Huacai Chen
2023-05-10 15:44 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2023-05-13  3:18   ` Huacai Chen
2023-05-15 14:41     ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-20  8:50       ` Huacai Chen
2023-05-12 23:53 ` Andrew Morton
2023-05-13  3:20   ` Huacai Chen

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