From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Gregory Price <gregory.price@memverge.com>
Cc: Gregory Price <gourry.memverge@gmail.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 01/11] mm/mempolicy: implement the sysfs-based weighted_interleave interface
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2024 14:03:09 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87il4bc5sy.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZZTNpGhj8EmYBB70@memverge.com> (Gregory Price's message of "Tue, 2 Jan 2024 21:59:48 -0500")
Gregory Price <gregory.price@memverge.com> writes:
> On Wed, Jan 03, 2024 at 10:45:53AM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
>>
>> > The minimum functionality is everything receiving a default weight of 1,
>> > such that weighted interleave's behavior defaults to round-robin
>> > interleave. This gets the system off the ground.
>>
>> I don't think that we need to implement all functionalities now. But,
>> we may need to consider more especially if it may impact the user space
>> interface. The default base weight is something like that. If we
>> change the default base weight from "1" to "16" later, users may be
>> surprised. So, I think it's better to discuss it now.
>>
>
> This is a hill I don't particularly care to die on. I think the weights
> are likely to end up being set at boot and rebalanced as (rare) hotplug
> events occur.
>
> So if people think the default weight should be 3,16,24 or 123, i don't
> think it's going to matter.
>
>>
>> We can use a wrapper function to hide the logic.
>>
>
> Done. I'll push a new set tomorrow.
>
>> > I think it also allows MPOL_F_GWEIGHT to be eliminated.
>>
>> Do we need a way to distinguish whether to copy the global weights to
>> local weights when the memory policy is created? That is, when the
>> global weights are changed later, will the changes be used? One
>> possible solution is
>>
>> - If no weights are specified in set_mempolicy2(), the global weights
>> will be used always.
>>
>> - If at least one weight is specified in set_mempolicy2(), it will be
>> used, and the other weights in global weights will be copied to the
>> local weights. That is, changes to the global weights will not be
>> used.
>>
>
> What's confusing about that is that if a user sets a weight to 0,
> they'll get a non-0 weight - always.
>
> In my opinion, if we want to make '0' mean 'use system default', then
> it should mean 'ALWAYS use system default for this node'.
>
> "Use the system default at the time the syscall was called, and do not
> update to use a new system default if that default is changed" is
> confusing.
>
> If you say use a global value, use the global value. Simple.
I mainly have concerns about consistency. The global weights can be
changed while the local weights are fixed. For example,
- Weights of node 0,1 is [3, 1] initially
- Process A call set_mempolicy2() to set weights to [4, 0], that is, use
default weight for node 1.
- After hotplug, the weights of node is changed to [12, 4, 1], now the
effective weights used in process A becomes [4, 4]. Which is hardly
desired.
Another choice is to disallow "0" as weight in set_mempolicy2().
--
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-03 6:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-23 18:10 [PATCH v5 00/11] mempolicy2, mbind2, and weighted interleave Gregory Price
2023-12-23 18:10 ` [PATCH v5 07/11] mm/mempolicy: add userland mempolicy arg structure Gregory Price
2023-12-23 18:11 ` [PATCH v5 10/11] mm/mempolicy: add the mbind2 syscall Gregory Price
2024-01-02 14:47 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-12-25 7:54 ` [PATCH v5 00/11] mempolicy2, mbind2, and weighted interleave Huang, Ying
2023-12-26 7:45 ` Gregory Price
2024-01-02 4:27 ` Huang, Ying
2024-01-02 19:06 ` Gregory Price
2024-01-03 3:15 ` Huang, Ying
[not found] ` <20231223181101.1954-2-gregory.price@memverge.com>
2023-12-27 6:42 ` [PATCH v5 01/11] mm/mempolicy: implement the sysfs-based weighted_interleave interface Huang, Ying
2023-12-26 6:48 ` Gregory Price
2024-01-02 7:41 ` Huang, Ying
2024-01-02 19:45 ` Gregory Price
2024-01-03 2:45 ` Huang, Ying
2024-01-03 2:59 ` Gregory Price
2024-01-03 6:03 ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2024-01-03 2:46 ` Gregory Price
[not found] ` <20231223181101.1954-3-gregory.price@memverge.com>
2023-12-27 8:32 ` [PATCH v5 02/11] mm/mempolicy: introduce MPOL_WEIGHTED_INTERLEAVE for weighted interleaving Huang, Ying
2023-12-26 7:01 ` Gregory Price
2023-12-26 8:06 ` Gregory Price
2023-12-26 11:32 ` Gregory Price
2024-01-02 8:42 ` Huang, Ying
2024-01-02 20:30 ` Gregory Price
2024-01-03 5:46 ` Huang, Ying
2024-01-03 22:09 ` Gregory Price
2024-01-04 5:39 ` Huang, Ying
2024-01-04 18:59 ` Gregory Price
2024-01-05 6:51 ` Huang, Ying
2024-01-05 7:25 ` Gregory Price
2024-01-08 7:08 ` Huang, Ying
[not found] ` <20231223181101.1954-4-gregory.price@memverge.com>
2023-12-27 8:39 ` [PATCH v5 03/11] mm/mempolicy: refactor sanitize_mpol_flags for reuse Huang, Ying
2023-12-26 7:05 ` Gregory Price
2023-12-26 11:48 ` Gregory Price
2024-01-02 9:09 ` Huang, Ying
[not found] ` <20231223181101.1954-9-gregory.price@memverge.com>
2024-01-02 14:38 ` [PATCH v5 08/11] mm/mempolicy: add set_mempolicy2 syscall Geert Uytterhoeven
[not found] ` <20231223181101.1954-10-gregory.price@memverge.com>
2024-01-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v5 09/11] mm/mempolicy: add get_mempolicy2 syscall Geert Uytterhoeven
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