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From: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
	 Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	 linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux-Fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
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	 audit@vger.kernel.org,
	 LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	 selinux@vger.kernel.org,  bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,  Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	 Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] fs/exec: Drop task_lock() inside __get_task_comm()
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 07:34:01 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ikyhrn7q.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQ+9T4n=ZhNMd57qfu2w=VqHM8Dzx-7UAAinU5MoORg63w@mail.gmail.com> (Alexei Starovoitov's message of "Sun, 2 Jun 2024 11:23:17 -0700")

Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 10:53 AM Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
>>
>> If you are performing lockless reads and depending upon a '\0'
>> terminator without limiting yourself to the size of the buffer
>> there needs to be a big fat comment as to how in the world
>> you are guaranteed that a '\0' inside the buffer will always
>> be found.
>
> I think Yafang can certainly add such a comment next to
> __[gs]et_task_comm.
>
> I prefer to avoid open coding memcpy + mmemset when strscpy_pad works.

Looking through the code in set_task_comm
strscpy_pad only works when both the source and designation are aligned.
Otherwise it performs a byte a time copy, and is most definitely
susceptible to the race I observed.

Further I looked a couple of the uses of set_task_com, in
fs/proc/base.c, kernel/kthread.c, and kernel/sys.c.

Nowhere do I see a guarantee that the source buffer is word aligned
or even something that would reasonably cause a compiler to place the
buffer that is being passed to set_task_comm to be word aligned.

As far as I can tell it is completely up to the compiler if it will
cause strscpy_pad to honor the word at a time guarantee needed
to make strscpy_pad safe for reading the information.

This is not to say we can't make it safe.

The easiest would be to create an aligned temporary buffer in
set_task_comm, and preserve the existing interface.  Alternatively
a type that has the appropriate size and alignment could be used
as input to set_task_comm and it could be caller's responsibility
to use it.

While we can definitely make reading task->comm happen without taking
the lock.  Doing so without updating set_task_comm to provide the
guarantees needed to make it safe, looks like a case of play silly
games, win silly prizes.

Eric


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-06-10 12:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-02  2:37 [PATCH 0/6] kernel: Avoid memcpy of task comm Yafang Shao
2024-06-02  2:37 ` [PATCH 1/6] fs/exec: Drop task_lock() inside __get_task_comm() Yafang Shao
2024-06-02  3:51   ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-02  6:56     ` Yafang Shao
2024-06-02 16:35       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-06-02 17:52         ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-02 18:23           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-06-03 11:35             ` Yafang Shao
2024-06-10 12:34             ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2024-06-10 23:01               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-06-02 17:56       ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-04 13:02   ` Matus Jokay
2024-06-04 20:01   ` Matus Jokay
2024-06-05  2:48     ` Yafang Shao
2024-06-02  2:37 ` [PATCH 2/6] tracing: Replace memcpy() with __get_task_comm() Yafang Shao
2024-06-03 21:20   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-03 21:42     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-03 22:19       ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-03 22:23         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-03 22:37           ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-03 22:38             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-03 22:40             ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-04  2:35               ` Yafang Shao
2024-06-02  2:37 ` [PATCH 3/6] auditsc: " Yafang Shao
2024-06-03 21:03   ` Paul Moore
2024-06-02  2:37 ` [PATCH 4/6] security: " Yafang Shao
2024-06-03 22:06   ` Paul Moore
2024-06-02  2:37 ` [PATCH 5/6] bpftool: Make task comm always be NUL-terminated Yafang Shao
2024-06-02 21:01   ` Quentin Monnet
2024-06-02  2:46 ` [PATCH 6/6] selftests/bpf: Replace memcpy() with __get_task_comm() Yafang Shao

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